Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

avec notion de perte de contact

English translation:

with symptoms of black-out/loss of consciousness/syncope/fainting

Added to glossary by Denise Pavao
Dec 12, 2016 20:20
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French term

avec notion de perte de contact

French to English Medical Medical (general) medical report - patient with multiple myeloma
Hello colleagues,

This regards a patient who has multiple myeloma and who suffered a mechanical fall at home, "sans perte de connaissance ni traumatisme crânien."

"Depuis la chute, la patiente présente à nouveau des douleurs dorsales et du bassin, progressivement croissantes, avec notion de perte de contact brève. Pas de récidive de l'épisode."

Loss of contact? Between the surfaces of the joints? So might this be:

"with possible brief loss of contact" ?? or "possibly with brief loss of contact." ?? I'm not familiar with this concept. Would anyone be able to weigh in?

Thank you!

Discussion

Denise Pavao (asker) Dec 22, 2016:
Hi Liz: I used "with a brief episode of loss of contact." I decided to stick closely to the French since the sentence didn't seem particularly clear, especially with the previous sentence reading "no loss of consciousness." Although now that I'm looking at it with fresh eyes, I think they're saying that there was no loss of consciousness when the patient suffered the fall, but that since then the patient has had pain and has possibly had a brief episode of loss of consciousness. I'll see if I can unclose the question and award you points!
liz askew Dec 21, 2016:
Hi,
so what was the final translation?
Denise Pavao (asker) Dec 13, 2016:
There is no other text to provide additional information. The paragraph begins with the "chute" and ends with "pas de récidive de l'épisode." Someone else suggested "with a brief episode of loss of contact."
Thanks for pondering this Anne!
Anne Schulz Dec 13, 2016:
L'épisode Does the text provide any clue about what "l'épisode" is? Progressively increasing pain in back and pelvis would not usually be termed an episode. If there is no other reference for 'épisode, could some text possibly have been lost somewhere between "croissantes" and "Pas de récidive", or actually between "croissantes" and "perte de contact breve"?
Denise Pavao (asker) Dec 13, 2016:
@ Anne: I always struggle with "notion de," of which one of the possible meanings (I thought...) is "possible." I must have come across that meaning in a particular context - I added it to my glossary at the time...
Anne Schulz Dec 13, 2016:
Why "possible"? Wouldn't notion be "a sensation of", as liz suggested?
Denise Pavao (asker) Dec 12, 2016:
Hi Liz,

But in the sentence it falls right after saying she has increasing back and pelvic pain, which makes me think the "perte de contact" must be somehow associated with what comes immediately before it. I'm not confident at all, and I will certainly look at your resource and consider this other meaning. Thanks so much for taking the time to comment on my question!
liz askew Dec 12, 2016:
I don't think this "perte de contact" has anything to do with the joints but is connected with the fall. See:

Malaise et perte de connaissance - colru
www.colru.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/.../7-Dr-BOUBAKRI.ppt
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Perte de connaissance (PC): Perte de contact avec le milieu extérieur, sans communication. Syncope: PC brutale, brève, et spontanément résolutive. Traduit ...

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with symptoms of black-out/loss of consciousness/syncope/fainting

Fainting (Syncope): What Causes Fainting? Reasons & Symptoms
www.medicinenet.com › home › heart center › heart a-z list › fainting index
Fainting, "blacking out," or syncope is the temporary loss of consciousness followed by the return to full wakefulness. ... For fainting or syncope to occur, either the reticular activating system loses its blood supply, or both hemispheres of the brain are deprived of blood, oxygen, or glucose.

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with a sensation of....
Peer comment(s):

agree Mair A-W (PhD) : I like "with a sensation of"
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neutral Drmanu49 : that would be contadictory with sans perte de connaissance Liz.
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