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English term
walk like a Lady
English to French
Art/Literary
Poetry & Literature
teenager\'s fantasy ficti
"The first thing that is broken, or at least bent: Our male god has decided in his infinite wisdom to have wealth and power pass down from mother to daughter. Men are left without… well without power. As a man, I find that in extremely poor taste. I mean if Im-Potent were a woman, you would kind of expect it, but since he is a man, for him to favor the women over men makes me believe he has serious mommy issues. I can’t confirm or deny the rumor, but maybe our Lord walks like a Lady instead."
Je ne peux m'empêcher de penser à la chanson d'Aerosmith "Dude walks like a Lady".
Est ce que cela induit juste une question de comportement, ou cela inclut un travestissement ? Comment le traduire sans heurter la communauté LGBT ?
Je ne peux m'empêcher de penser à la chanson d'Aerosmith "Dude walks like a Lady".
Est ce que cela induit juste une question de comportement, ou cela inclut un travestissement ? Comment le traduire sans heurter la communauté LGBT ?
Proposed translations
(French)
4 | marcher comme une dame | Samuel Clarisse |
3 | se promène comme une Femme | Timothy Rake |
Proposed translations
1 hr
marcher comme une dame
Je doute qu'un texte sur la religion se préoccupe vraiment de la communauté LGBTQIA+...
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Note added at 4 hrs (2021-05-26 13:25:16 GMT)
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Si l'on ne peut même plus écrire "femme" ou "homme"...
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Note added at 4 hrs (2021-05-26 13:25:16 GMT)
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Si l'on ne peut même plus écrire "femme" ou "homme"...
Note from asker:
ceci n'est pas un texte sur la religion mais un livre de Fantasy, avec sa propre cosmologie. J'essaye dans la mesure du possible d'éviter les termes offensants, sauf si l'auteur les utilise expressément, mais ce n'est pas le cas |
5 hrs
se promène comme une Femme
see my discussion entry
Peer comment(s):
neutral |
Tony M
: IF the intended meaning was "goes about as a woman", that MIGHT have some relevance here; but I strongly misdoubt that is the intended sense here.
17 hrs
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neutral |
Germaine
: L'expression ne rend pas vraiment le sens recherché. À tout prendre, on peut l'interpréter de deux façons: circule/déambule librement ou de façon circonspecte/prudente.
1 day 12 hrs
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Discussion
« Tu seras viril mon kid,…
Pour qu'aucune de ces dames te dirigent vers des contrées roses…
Mais moi, mais moi, je joue avec les filles... »
On aurait donc qlqe chose comme :
Je ne peux ni confirmer ni infirmer la rumeur, mais peut-être notre Seigneur vient-il de contrées roses?
Je ne peux ni confirmer ni infirmer la rumeur, mais si, mais si notre Seigneur avait joué avec les filles?
Sa réponse est : "He is implying the god is homosexual, and I did use the Aerosmith as an implied reference "
Donc maintenant, comment retranscrit-on cela en français ?
in the first volume, the action takes place in a matriarchal society, where men have absolutly no rights, they even are describe as "long in muscles but short in brain", we also meet a kind of "false godess" who is in reality a man disguised in a woman
Marcher comme une femme/dame, oui.
Are you trying your own version of bowdlerizing?
A colleague pointed at the opposition between Lord / Lady.
He is quite right as the author is playing with this.
the book is the second of a collection, in the first one the hero called Jinx ( La Guigne, in French) was helped by a dog called Lucky (Veinard, in french), this was in purpose and we realize at the end of the final chapter that this opposition was coherent.
For the moment I am in the first chapter of the second book, a he is making a brief resume of the first one, and he is using the same kind of opposition
So our fellow suggested " Notre Seigneur marche comme une SeigneurE", this would be a neologism, but in a Fantasy fiction this is possible, and regarding to all the feminisation of word and inclusive writing this could do the trick.
What do you think about it ?
Is it only about behaviour quite woman like ? Or does that include a notion of transgender (operate or not), or more DragQueen ?
What do you think?