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Glossary entry

español term or phrase:

los cargos no deberían tomarse en cuenta

inglés translation:

"The charges should not be taken into consideration"

Added to glossary by eski
Sep 17, 2008 18:34
15 yrs ago
español term

los cargos no deberían tomarse en cuenta

español al inglés Jurídico/Patentes Derecho: patentes, marcas registradas, derechos de autor
Spain > UK Eng.

Legal document, Pleadings in a Sanction Proceeding.

The charges should not be taken into consideration?
Or something with "hold"?

Thanks for your help!
Proposed translations (inglés)
4 +1 "The charges should not be taken into consideration"
5 charges should not be held
5 the charges should not be taken into account
4 this item in the accusation should not be taken into consideration
3 charges shall be disregarded
Change log

Oct 9, 2008 17:23: eski Created KOG entry

Oct 9, 2008 17:24: eski changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/819772">eski's</a> old entry - "los cargos no deberían tomarse en cuenta"" to """The charges should not be taken into consideration"""

Discussion

Flavio Posse Oct 10, 2008:
Thank you for the clarification, Cinnamon. Excuse me for being harsh, I hope you understand the reason for my frustration. I appreciate you taking the time to reconsider and un-decline the answer. Your apology is accepted. Regards.
eski Oct 9, 2008:
Thanks to YOU, Cinnamon! Saludos.
Cinnamon Nolan (asker) Oct 9, 2008:
Apologies Flavio, I'm really sorry. I thought that I had already closed the question out, WITH THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR THEIR HELP, and having it still open was just some glitch.
Clarification was sought from the client, with no response. The final translation was a combination of the suggestions given, but the "right" translation remains unclear.
So, again, sorry about the mix-up, and THANKS to Ricardo, eski, Dave, Flavio and Alicia!!!
Flavio Posse Oct 9, 2008:
community, but the asker doesn't find either one of them worthy of her choosing? I would really love to see that "answer found elsewhere", it must be a knockout. But that's okay, what really bugs me is the five unworthy answers didn't get a Thank you note
Flavio Posse Oct 9, 2008:
I'll never understand the "answer found elsewhere" excuse without a "tanks for your efforts everyone!" note. As far as I'm concern five qualified translators offered a variety of valid answers, which are exposed to the scrutiny of anyone in the Proz ...
eski Sep 18, 2008:
CINNAMON: As you know, we are advised not to submit more than one entry, so I will comply. Still, after reviewing and considering the information you proved above; please see my latest suggestion under the heading "EXAMPLE SENTENCE".Saludos, eski.
Cinnamon Nolan (asker) Sep 18, 2008:
"...este punto..." The complete sentence is the one given here in the clarification section, including "este punto". At any rate, that part would be "this point of the charges" instead of only "the charges", wouldn't it? My main doubt lies in the translation of TOMARSE EN CUENTA. Is that different from "tenerse en cuenta", especially in a legal document?
Flavio Posse Sep 18, 2008:
There's a significant difference between your question "los cargos no deberían tomarse en cuenta" and your last quote "...este punto de los cargos no debería tomarse en cuenta". Which one is correct?
Cinnamon Nolan (asker) Sep 18, 2008:
Sanction for having improper slogans on a product The company said something like "This product increases your health" and the Consumer Agency said that was improper, on the basis of several regulations. The company says it made the changes on the product label, so they shouldn't be sanctioned for the improper phrases now.

"En vista que los cambios fueron ordenados por la empresa en tiempo y forma, consideramos que este punto de los cargos no debería tomarse en cuenta."

"
Flavio Posse Sep 17, 2008:
Can you provide more context? "cargos" can mean different things.

Proposed translations

+1
31 minutos
Selected

"The charges should not be taken into consideration"

I think you're first hunch is more likely to be correct. I many instances, a charge which has been made (prior) is not allowed because it is not germain to the proceedings:
It must not take into consideration a charge which has been committed or sent ... should not be invited to have an offence taken into consideration in the ...
www.cps.gov.uk/legal/section14/chapter_f.html - 35k - En caché - Páginas similares




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Note added at 32 mins (2008-09-17 19:07:08 GMT)
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A subsequent prosecution for an offence taken into consideration should ..... consideration. It must not take into consideration a charge which ...
www.hampshire.police.uk/NR/rdonlyres/641DB9A2-14E4-49F7-B3E... - Páginas similares


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Note added at 33 mins (2008-09-17 19:08:11 GMT)
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Feb 2007 ... should not be taken into consideration if, because of its seriousness, ... requires that it should be the. subject of a separate charge. ...
www.sentencing-guidelines.gov.uk/docs/consultation-paper-ti... - Páginas similares

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Note added at 34 mins (2008-09-17 19:09:08 GMT)
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HTH(hope this helps) you. :). Saludos.

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Note added at 21 hrs (2008-09-18 16:14:37 GMT)
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NOTE TO CINNAMON:You could qualify it by saying :
"On this point, the charges should not be taken into consideration."
(Note added after your clarification above.)

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Note added at 21 hrs (2008-09-18 16:32:28 GMT)
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EXAMPLE SENTENCE: " In view of the fact that the changes were ordered by the company in due time and manner, we consider that this point of the charges should not be taken into consideration. "
Peer comment(s):
agree Mónica Sauza
59 minutos
Thanks again, Monica!!
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3 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "I wish it were possible to split the points! Thanks to eveyone for their help. The final answer was a combination of the suggestions."
21 minutos

charges should not be held

Yes.
Note from asker:
Thanks for your help, Ricardo, and sorry about the mix-up.
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2 horas

charges shall be disregarded

another idea

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Note added at 7 hrs (2008-09-18 02:31:19 GMT)
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Now taking into account the context you provide, I'd say it refers to a legal claim therefore "dismissed" is the right legal terminology here, meaning those accusations should not be taken into account.
Note from asker:
Thanks for your help, Alicia, and sorry about the mix-up.
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9 horas

this item in the accusation should not be taken into consideration

In this context the term "cargos" could be either counts (count one, count two, etc.); or the accusation as a whole.
It isn't clear if "este punto" refers to an individual count in a complaint or something else, so it is safer to call it an "item".
Tomarse en cuenta = to be taken into/under consideration
Tenerse en cuenta = to keep in mind/to have in mind
Note from asker:
Thanks again for your help, Flavio. Your suggestion helped me research the differences between civil and criminal proceedings/terminology.
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17 horas

the charges should not be taken into account

another alternative here

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Note added at 21 days (2008-10-09 10:55:06 GMT) Post-grading
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no worries
Note from asker:
Thanks for your input, Dave.
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