Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
como lo fuera en su momento ...
English translation:
in the way that .... did in successive ages
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Bubo Coroman (X)
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Spanish term
Bubo Coroman (X)
como lo fuera en su momento
Spanish to English
Social Sciences
Philosophy
Incommunication in Political Discourse
En la descripción arqueológica la formación de los objetos discursivos no se refiere ni a las palabras ni a las cosas; la formación de las enunciaciones no se refiere a la forma pura del conocimiento ni al sujeto psicológico; la de los conceptos ni a la estructura de la idealidad ni a la sucesión de las ideas y la formación de las elecciones teóricas ni a un proyecto fundamental ni al juego secundario de las opiniones (Foucault, 1969: 116). Es decir, no hay una racionalidad discursiva independiente a la formación de las estrategias, objetos, conceptos y sujetos. No hay una necesaria objetividad, ***como lo fuera en su momento*** Dios, la Naturaleza o la Razón (Torfing, 1999), que haga inevitable la comunicación.
Thanks in advance for all ideas :-)
Thanks in advance for all ideas :-)
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Juliana Brown
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did at various moments/points in history (see below)
I would re-write the order thus:
"There is not necessarily an objectiveness which would make communication inevitable, in the way that God, Nature or Reason did at various moments/points in history."
"There is not necessarily an objectiveness which would make communication inevitable, in the way that God, Nature or Reason did at various moments/points in history."
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Comment: "thanks so much to everyone for your help. I was still unable to understand the use of "fuera" so I consulted the writer and she says it is short for "fuera esa objetividad la que fuera", then she goes on to explain: "(EJEMPLO: DIOS –DESDE EL SIGLO UNO EN LA TRADICIÓN CRISTIANA, LUEGO LA NATURALEZA EN EL RENACIMIENTO HASTA LA ILUSTRACIÓN, LUEGO LA RAZÓN, DESDE LA ILUSTRACIÓN HASTA FINALES DEL SIGLO XIX) IT WAS SOMETHING THAT NOBODY DOUBTED ABOUT. CREYERAN EN UNA COSA O EN OTRA, LO QUE NO SE PONÍA EN DUDA ERA QUE HABÍA UNA OBJETIVIDAD EN EL MUNDO..." Sorry the explanation is much longer than the question!!"
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Melissa Mann
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as was once the case with God, Nature and Reason (or alternatives)
one way of putting it...
other alternatives:
as was the case (at different points in time) with God, Nature and Reason
as has been the case (at different points in time) with God, Nature and Reason
other alternatives:
as was the case (at different points in time) with God, Nature and Reason
as has been the case (at different points in time) with God, Nature and Reason
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Mónica Sauza
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Sandra Cravero
: Just another option: 'as God, Nature and Reason were the case once/sometime in the past'
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:) thank you
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Elizabeth Medina
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as [God, Nature and Reason were] at one point/different moments in the past
"There is no necessary objectivity, as God, Nature or Reason was, at one point/at different moments in the past."
Necessary objectivity is a concept of moral law and philosophy.
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Note added at 3 hrs (2009-07-22 22:56:21 GMT)
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Sorry, typo: ...as God, Nature _OR_ Reason...
Necessary objectivity is a concept of moral law and philosophy.
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Note added at 3 hrs (2009-07-22 22:56:21 GMT)
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Sorry, typo: ...as God, Nature _OR_ Reason...
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David Ronder
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of the kind represented in their time
So the sentence would go something like:
There is no necessary objectivity - of the kind represented in their time by God, Nature or Reason - that makes communication inevitable.
I can think of several other ways of putting it, but I am not in the mood to torment myself and think this one works.
Hope you agree, Deborah.
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Note added at 1 day17 hrs (2009-07-24 12:58:33 GMT)
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Simpler version, closer to the original:
There is no necessary objectivity, as represented in their time by God, Nature or Reason, that makes communication inevitable.
What about "in their day"? A bit journalistic, maybe, not right for the context?
There is no necessary objectivity - of the kind represented in their time by God, Nature or Reason - that makes communication inevitable.
I can think of several other ways of putting it, but I am not in the mood to torment myself and think this one works.
Hope you agree, Deborah.
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Note added at 1 day17 hrs (2009-07-24 12:58:33 GMT)
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Simpler version, closer to the original:
There is no necessary objectivity, as represented in their time by God, Nature or Reason, that makes communication inevitable.
What about "in their day"? A bit journalistic, maybe, not right for the context?
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