Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

brújula y norte

English translation:

compass and pole star / north star

Added to glossary by Bubo Coroman (X)
May 7, 2010 17:52
14 yrs ago
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Spanish term

brújula y norte

Spanish to English Social Sciences Philosophy education, rhetoric
Is there a standard way to translate this? Thanks in advance!

Dicho en términos metafóricos, una teoría que sirva a los profesores como brújula y norte en su tarea de facilitadores de la comunidad de investigación, al menos en lo que a materia argumentativa se refiere.
Change log

May 7, 2010 17:54: Tomás Cano Binder, BA, CT changed "Language pair" from "English to Spanish" to "Spanish to English"

May 9, 2010 18:33: Bubo Coroman (X) Created KOG entry

Proposed translations

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compass and pole star / compass and north star

I think "norte" refers not to the pointer on the compass (that would be pleonastic) but to the heavens which guide travellers at sea and in the Arabian desert

examples of the use of the two terms:

http://www.google.es/#hl=es&rlz=1W1ACPW_es&q="compass and po...

http://www.google.es/#hl=es&rlz=1W1ACPW_es&q="compass and No...

Information about the pole star (also known as the north star):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole_star
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks to everyone for the abundance of good answers. Deborah's answer fits beautifully into the text (and I know somewhere long ago I heard or read "compass and pole star"). Thank you, Deborah!"
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compass

En USA se utiliza solamente el término "compass" para referirse al grupo encargado de asegurarse que los demás individuos o grupos, se mantengan enfocados en las metas o propósitos establecidos.
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as compass and north

Creo que una traducción literal encaja muy bien en el texto y su significado. Algo que le indique los diferentes caminos posibles (brújula) y además el mejor camino (el norte).
Mi sugerencia.
Peer comment(s):

agree coolbrowne
1 min
Muchas gracias cool.
agree Leticia Rigano
20 mins
Muchas gracias Leticia.
agree imatahan
59 mins
Muchas gracias imatahan.
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serve as a compass (to guide/point/lead them "north")

I agree with Caminante that usually "compass" is enough. However, you can include the other reference as well (some people might use the compass to go west instead of north...).

The fact that the guide is an international standard means that it is a point of ...... ISO/IEC 20000 will increasingly serve as a compass, the guide that enables us to locate “north” and enables service providers to achieve their ...
www.exin-exams.com/.../ITSMGLOBALBP volume1_8 2_Secured pdf...

A compass for health: rethinking precaution and its role in ...by JA Tickner - 2003 - Cited by 16 - Related articles
In this context, precaution becomes a compass to guide decisions under .... how precaution can serve as a compass directing society towards practices that ...
ije.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/32/4/489

This information can help serve as a compass to point you to some of the many possibilities for ...
www.pueblo.gsa.gov/cic_text/family/.../spirit.htm - United States

17 Aug 2009 ... from one chord to another) serve as a compass; they point the direction to the ....
www.slate.com/id/2225336 -
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(as a) guiding light/star

"as compass and north" doesn't exist in English...
Peer comment(s):

agree Christine Walsh : Sounds best to me
2 hrs
thank you Christine! ;-)
agree Hermeneutica : Like this one best.
21 hrs
many thanks! ;-)
agree JPW (X) : Sounds good to me
2 days 17 hrs
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Spanish term (edited): una teoría que sirva a los profesores como brújula y norte

a theory that guides the efforts of professors

A fairly simple approach that I think captures the idea.

I don't see any need to replicate the redundancy of "brújula y norte" and "compass" seems a bit overblown in the present context, at least to my ear. "North" certainly does not work in English.

Suerte.
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(a theory) that will provide an adequate orientation (to professors ...)

Another option. Or "that will provide a means of orientation to professors..." A compass (that apart from the Devil's Triangle and one other place indicates magnetic north) or other means of finding "true north" (that is a metaphor for finding one's way) are all methods of orientation.
Peer comment(s):

agree Gloria Rivera : This option conveys the meaning of the text. Yay! :)
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Thanks, Gloria. "Adequate" could replaced with "sound", etc.
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