Páginas sobre el tema:   [1 2] >
Ref: My previous posting on STOLEN CV
Autor de la hebra: Marlene Curtis
Marlene Curtis
Marlene Curtis  Identity Verified
Estados Unidos
Local time: 21:42
inglés al portugués
+ ...
Jul 25, 2012

Hi,

It might be a different source, but here are the details of a email I have just received.


[email protected] via proz.com

Author's IP address: 176.67.117.31

Project manager
Palestine
Hamzafoad20

dear translator I'm a project manager. I am currently looking for
translators on a freelance basis.
and I read your profile and I admire o
... See more
Hi,

It might be a different source, but here are the details of a email I have just received.


[email protected] via proz.com

Author's IP address: 176.67.117.31

Project manager
Palestine
Hamzafoad20

dear translator I'm a project manager. I am currently looking for
translators on a freelance basis.
and I read your profile and I admire of it and like to work
with me.

If you are interested in and available please send us your
CV to Hamzafoad2011 at gmail.com
Collapse


 
Albert Golub
Albert Golub  Identity Verified
Local time: 03:42
inglés al francés
Also received it Jul 25, 2012

in France from the center of Gaza

 
Tony M
Tony M
Francia
Local time: 03:42
Miembro
francés al inglés
+ ...
LOCALIZADOR DEL SITIO
Me too! Jul 25, 2012

I got exactly the same mail!

I don't think it is necessarily a scam, but there are enough warning signs, I have not even bothered to reply:

No other contact details given
Unprofessional use of gmail address for a supposed business
Poor quality of letter (for a first approach letter, it ought to have been possible to have at least got it checked by a native EN speaker!)

In addition, my past experience with Middle Eastern agencies of this kind sug
... See more
I got exactly the same mail!

I don't think it is necessarily a scam, but there are enough warning signs, I have not even bothered to reply:

No other contact details given
Unprofessional use of gmail address for a supposed business
Poor quality of letter (for a first approach letter, it ought to have been possible to have at least got it checked by a native EN speaker!)

In addition, my past experience with Middle Eastern agencies of this kind suggests they are not usually prepared to pay my sort of rates, so I no longer bother with any of these 'cattle calls', unless I get an enquiry for a specific job.
Collapse


 
Elisabete Cunha
Elisabete Cunha  Identity Verified
Portugal
Local time: 02:42
Miembro 2006
inglés al portugués
+ ...
I also received it Jul 25, 2012

For the same reasons stated by Tony, I haven't replied.
Thanks for sharing, Marlene, it's always good to be informed about this, there are a lot of scammers out there.


 
Marlene Curtis
Marlene Curtis  Identity Verified
Estados Unidos
Local time: 21:42
inglés al portugués
+ ...
PERSONA QUE INICIÓ LA HEBRA
Tony Jul 25, 2012

It is a scam in that if you send you CV he/she will steal it as they did to me.


Marlene


 
Tony M
Tony M
Francia
Local time: 03:42
Miembro
francés al inglés
+ ...
LOCALIZADOR DEL SITIO
No proof yet it is an actual scam Jul 25, 2012

marlcurtis wrote:

It is a scam in that if you send you CV he/she will steal it as they did to me.


But I don't think we can automatically assume that just one the basis of your one bad experience.

LOTS of agencies call for CVs (they're obviously too stupid to realize they can simply download it from my profile page: crass stupidity is another good criterion for me to reject them!)

If you have specific proof that this particular person is the same person as stole your CV, or is otherwise a scammer, then you should report it to Site Staff.

In the only case that I am aware of of my CV having been actually 'stolen' (as distinct from simply plagiarized), it was stolen without my having sent it to anyone, so clearly must have been downloaded from my profile page.

just a thought: if you want to check if your CV appears anywhere else on the 'Net that you might not be aware of, then I'd suggest putting a word somewhere in it that is in some way made up or impossible, a kind of 'password' — there's nothing to stop you chaning the 'ink' colur to white for example, so potential customers won't ever actually see it; but by searching for that word on (say) Google, you stand a good chance of seeing if your CV has been copied anywhere it shouldn't.

The same applies to your e-mail address book; I always put an invalid 'dummy' address in my list of contacts, that way, if someone hacks my address book and uses it to send out spam, I will receive an error message to the effect that "this address does not exist", thus alerting me to the fact.

[Edited at 2012-07-25 15:52 GMT]


 
Marlene Curtis
Marlene Curtis  Identity Verified
Estados Unidos
Local time: 21:42
inglés al portugués
+ ...
PERSONA QUE INICIÓ LA HEBRA
Stolen CV Jul 25, 2012

I have deleted my CV from my profile, anyone can steal it (I have chosen the CV Upon-Request Option).


The only way to get the proof is to let them copy your CV and profit by using it, or probably ruin your reputation by delivering very bad quality translations. You'll probably never know about it, until somebody or an agency gets suspicious and warns you about it.

Regards,


Marlene


 
Marlene Curtis
Marlene Curtis  Identity Verified
Estados Unidos
Local time: 21:42
inglés al portugués
+ ...
PERSONA QUE INICIÓ LA HEBRA
Stolen CV Jul 25, 2012

Red flags:

1) Poorly drafted emails

2) The sender is not a Proz-registered member

3) No physical address or phone number is provided.



Marlene


 
Lau Wei Tsinn
Lau Wei Tsinn  Identity Verified
Singapur
Local time: 09:42
Miembro 2011
chino al inglés
+ ...
It's possible to ask them straight Jul 26, 2012

I received this too and ignored it due to all the reasons the rest of you have pointed out.

However, there is always this nagging feeling in me whenever I do that because there is always a 1% (ok, maybe even more than that) chance that the enquiry could have come from a valid source. Also, perhaps I do not like the idea of doubting someone right off the cuff. Mispellings can be simply because they are not writing in a language familiar to them. The use of hotmail/gmail can be due to
... See more
I received this too and ignored it due to all the reasons the rest of you have pointed out.

However, there is always this nagging feeling in me whenever I do that because there is always a 1% (ok, maybe even more than that) chance that the enquiry could have come from a valid source. Also, perhaps I do not like the idea of doubting someone right off the cuff. Mispellings can be simply because they are not writing in a language familiar to them. The use of hotmail/gmail can be due to working from home.

So, when I received another such enquiry yesterday, with lots of mispellings and sent from a hotmail address from an unverified person, I replied to ask if it is possible for the sender to correspond using his company email instead. He agreed and another one of his colleagues sent me the project details from the company system. I didn't take it on eventually as I was not available on the given dates but this experience has given me another choice in how I can respond to emails of suspect origins.

Btw, Tony, your anti-CV theft methods are ingenious... hahaha... I would never have thought of the protective measures you've taken.
Collapse


 
Edward Vreeburg
Edward Vreeburg  Identity Verified
Países Bajos
Local time: 03:42
Miembro 2008
inglés al neerlandés
+ ...
more info Jul 26, 2012

Also see: http://www.proz.com/forum/scams/209374-corporate_identity_theft_what_do_i_do.html

Personally I've had an issue with somebody who copied my entire profile, including CV and only changed the email address to somewhere in the middle-east. The problems was, she was a girl, and so she had my details with a female name in the email address
... See more
Also see: http://www.proz.com/forum/scams/209374-corporate_identity_theft_what_do_i_do.html

Personally I've had an issue with somebody who copied my entire profile, including CV and only changed the email address to somewhere in the middle-east. The problems was, she was a girl, and so she had my details with a female name in the email address.
Then she send out the resume to Dutch agencies claiming to be native Dutch (but writing in terrible English), so luckely the agency contacted me to see what happened.

This person was banned from Proz, but there is no guarantee she will just do it again under a different name...

2nd thing: I received a mail from India with the offer of Dutch native specialists at 0,03 euro / source word... , so I asked for a couple of CV's - - I got them and to my surprise these were all excellent people !!! - - However when I contacted the translators in question they informed my they have never worked for the agency and never worked at rates that low !!!

-- So yes there is a lot of scaming going on with CV's and references here on Proz..., which is part of the reason why bottom feeders in cheap labor countries can be so succesful...
Collapse


 
Bertrand Malingrey
Bertrand Malingrey  Identity Verified
Estados Unidos
Local time: 21:42
inglés al francés
+ ...
a lot of identity theft going on at the moment Jul 26, 2012

I'm receiving tons of applications lately, saying they're interested in my collaboration offer. I have not posted any offer.
Yesterday I sent a proz private message to a translator, because I received 3 applications from him this week, but from a gmail address while his CV lists 2 other addresses and not this one. No reply yet...but I'm pretty sure someone is posing as him.
Also, lots of applications coming from 2 addresses, i.e "john
... See more
I'm receiving tons of applications lately, saying they're interested in my collaboration offer. I have not posted any offer.
Yesterday I sent a proz private message to a translator, because I received 3 applications from him this week, but from a gmail address while his CV lists 2 other addresses and not this one. No reply yet...but I'm pretty sure someone is posing as him.
Also, lots of applications coming from 2 addresses, i.e "[email protected] via [email protected]". Not sure what purposes it serves...but anyway I'll try and warn the proz members when I receive an application that looks dodgy.
Collapse


 
Mohamed Kamel
Mohamed Kamel  Identity Verified
Egipto
Local time: 04:42
inglés al árabe
May this link help. Jul 26, 2012

Bertrand Malingrey wrote:

I'm receiving tons of applications lately, saying they're interested in my collaboration offer. I have not posted any offer.
Yesterday I sent a proz private message to a translator, because I received 3 applications from him this week, but from a gmail address while his CV lists 2 other addresses and not this one. No reply yet...but I'm pretty sure someone is posing as him.
Also, lots of applications coming from 2 addresses, i.e "[email protected] via [email protected]". Not sure what purposes it serves...but anyway I'll try and warn the proz members when I receive an application that looks dodgy.


Check this link: http://webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/17413/i-have-registered-a-john-doegmail-com-account-is-doe-johngmail-com-automatica

Note: Please google this e-mail address and you'll have more results.

MK


[Edited at 2012-07-26 14:26 GMT]


 
Bertrand Malingrey
Bertrand Malingrey  Identity Verified
Estados Unidos
Local time: 21:42
inglés al francés
+ ...
thanks Jul 27, 2012

But your link is about inverting names in the same domain. What I'm talking about is a header saying "from [email protected] via [email protected]". Like a pop3 forwarding is used. And 80% of the applications I receive have this forwarding, I think there's something fishy in here...

 
Julie Cornillie
Julie Cornillie  Identity Verified
Alemania
Local time: 03:42
alemán al inglés
Definitely is a scam Jul 27, 2012

There is a discussion of this topic over here as well: http://www.proz.com/forum/scams/227212-enormous_increase_in_translator_applications_from_translators_with_a_hotmail_address-page2.html#1986950

It definitely is a scam. Seems like it is coming from the Gaza/Palestine area. Tracing
... See more
There is a discussion of this topic over here as well: http://www.proz.com/forum/scams/227212-enormous_increase_in_translator_applications_from_translators_with_a_hotmail_address-page2.html#1986950

It definitely is a scam. Seems like it is coming from the Gaza/Palestine area. Tracing back one of the email addresses gave us this: lolleetta at gmail.com IP: 188.161.103.182 (Nablus, Palestinian Territory).

I believe they have been posting jobs and grabbing CVs from sites like Translation Directory, Translator's Cafe and Proz.com. They probably use machine translation or some unsuspecting victims in low-wage areas to get the translations done and fool potential customers into thinking they were done by natives, attempting to collect payment via PayPal.

The insidious thing is that they are using (our) real CVs and eerily similar email addresses to trick people into giving them work. I suppose all we can do is protect our CVs and set up some rules for our inboxes.

Best,
Julie
Collapse


 
José Henrique Lamensdorf
José Henrique Lamensdorf  Identity Verified
Brasil
Local time: 22:42
inglés al portugués
+ ...
In Memoriam
Quite honestly... Jul 27, 2012

What's the point of stealing/copying someone else's CV?

I've been to both Princeton and Harvard... as a tourist! My degree is from a university named Mackenzie... in Sao Paulo, Brazil, in spite of the EN-sounding name.

I've worked for a few companies that were later sold, merged, whatever, so it would take some investigative work to find out under what names they are trading today. Many of my former bosses could be retired, deceased, or merely senile, so they couldn't v
... See more
What's the point of stealing/copying someone else's CV?

I've been to both Princeton and Harvard... as a tourist! My degree is from a university named Mackenzie... in Sao Paulo, Brazil, in spite of the EN-sounding name.

I've worked for a few companies that were later sold, merged, whatever, so it would take some investigative work to find out under what names they are trading today. Many of my former bosses could be retired, deceased, or merely senile, so they couldn't vouch for me ever having been there.

So I wonder what would be the point of copying someone else's complete CV, when with some creativity one can pinch parts from many CVs and build a much more impressive one?

The only care that must be taken is to make it stick. For instance, I wouldn't say I graduated from Heidelberg, as my command of DE doesn't go much beyond saying Mahlzeit! to people in the cafeteria there, and I don't know for sure if they ever had one!
Collapse


 
Páginas sobre el tema:   [1 2] >


To report site rules violations or get help, contact a site moderator:

Moderador(es) de este foro
Lucia Leszinsky[Call to this topic]

You can also contact site staff by submitting a support request »

Ref: My previous posting on STOLEN CV







Protemos translation business management system
Create your account in minutes, and start working! 3-month trial for agencies, and free for freelancers!

The system lets you keep client/vendor database, with contacts and rates, manage projects and assign jobs to vendors, issue invoices, track payments, store and manage project files, generate business reports on turnover profit per client/manager etc.

More info »
Trados Studio 2022 Freelance
The leading translation software used by over 270,000 translators.

Designed with your feedback in mind, Trados Studio 2022 delivers an unrivalled, powerful desktop and cloud solution, empowering you to work in the most efficient and cost-effective way.

More info »