Roman monumental stone

Russian translation: больших камней, полученных из разрушенных строений римского города

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English term or phrase:Roman monumental stone
Russian translation:больших камней, полученных из разрушенных строений римского города

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Art/Literary - Archaeology
English term or phrase: Roman monumental stone
The historic Anglo Saxon Church of St Andrews is built with Roman monumental stone and has a font carved from a 2000 year old Roman column.
Olena (X)
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больших камней, полученных из разрушенных строений римского города
Explanation:
ST ANDREW’S CHURCH
WROXETER
SHROPSHIRE
...
The earliest part of St Andrew’s dates to the later Anglo-Saxon peri-
od but its precise foundation date is not known, and it may well have been preceded by a timber church. Certainly, we know that a preaching cross was put up in the churchyard during the later 8th century, in the reign of King Offa. Possibly at this time, or perhaps in the next century, Wroxeter’s stone church was built. The ***large stones used in it came from one of the public buildings of the Roman city***.
http://www.visitchurches.org.uk/uploads/publications/54.pdf
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4из крупного красного порфира со светлыми вкраплениями
erika rubinstein
4больших камней, полученных из разрушенных строений римского города
Igor Boyko
4 -1построена из монументального римского камня
Marina Aidova
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http://www.britarch.ac.uk/ba/ba60/feat2.shtml
Vladimir Dubisskiy

  

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roman monumental stone
построена из монументального римского камня


Explanation:


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http://www.visitchurches.org.uk/uploads/publications/54.pdf

Building materials: three types of
sandstone are used in the church.
The bright red sandstone is known
as Keele Beds and this is the local
bedrock on which the church is
built. It is a soft stone, easily carved
but not long-lasting.This can be
seen on the Victorian south porch -
it is only just over 100 years old and
yet it is already weathering. It is
thought that in the Roman period,
this stone was quarried from Ketley
bank, now in modern Telford, where
the Watling Street cuts into an outcrop
of this rock.
The other two types of stone are
both Hoar Edge Grit, a type of
sandstone that is found eight miles
to the south of Wroxeter. The first
type is pale grey or buff in colour
and has millet-seed sized grains of
sand in it. In the Roman period it
was used for large columns and the
big stones such as those reused in
the church. A finer quality variant
was used for elements that needed
carving, such as the column base
reused as the font. The fine carvings
on the tower are in Grinshill sandstone.
This is a very fine-grained
hard sandstone that is well suited to
intricate carving. Grinshill lies about
15 miles north of Wroxeter

Marina Aidova
Moldova
Local time: 10:23
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Native speaker of: Russian

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disagree  Vladimir Dubisskiy: "монументальным" часто называют гранит, потому что РёР· него делаютнадгробные памятники. Что такое "СЂРёРјСЃРєРёР№" камень-непонятно. Р’ Р РёРјСЃРєРѕР№ РёРјР
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roman monumental stone
из крупного красного порфира со светлыми вкраплениями


Explanation:
monumental - большой, крупный

Neue Seite 6Римские колонны — это колонны из «римского» камня (т. е. красного порфира со светлыми вкраплениями). 113 Сигма — полукруглый зал, примыкающий к Триконху, ...
www.vostlit.narod.ru/Texts/rus5/TheophCont/frametext3.htm -

erika rubinstein
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roman monumental stone
больших камней, полученных из разрушенных строений римского города


Explanation:
ST ANDREW’S CHURCH
WROXETER
SHROPSHIRE
...
The earliest part of St Andrew’s dates to the later Anglo-Saxon peri-
od but its precise foundation date is not known, and it may well have been preceded by a timber church. Certainly, we know that a preaching cross was put up in the churchyard during the later 8th century, in the reign of King Offa. Possibly at this time, or perhaps in the next century, Wroxeter’s stone church was built. The ***large stones used in it came from one of the public buildings of the Roman city***.
http://www.visitchurches.org.uk/uploads/publications/54.pdf

Igor Boyko
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Reference: http://www.britarch.ac.uk/ba/ba60/feat2.shtml

Reference information:
However, the decay of these ruins was accelerated by the Church, which from as early as the late 6th century plundered Roman buildings of stone and brick to erect some of the more important ecclesiastical buildings in the land. Not until the late 10th century were quarries reopened for the extraction of fresh, unused building material.

Conventional wisdom dictates that these Roman ruins were important to medieval builders simply as cheap and convenient sources of stone. Why quarry stone afresh, the argument runs, when someone has already done it for you? There is no question that economy was a factor in the recycling of Roman building material (or spolia). But - as is so often the case with historical research - scratching beneath the surface reveals the past to be far more complex than our simplistic models allow.

Может, именно говорится о том, что церковь была построена из камня (строительных материалов, т.к., кроме камня это мог быть и кирпич) , употреблявшегося в римских постройках в Англии.


    Reference: http://www.britarch.ac.uk/ba/ba60/feat2.shtml
Vladimir Dubisskiy
United States
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