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DeepL Write | ?

Giovanni Guarnieri MITI, MIL — Tue, 24 Jan 2023 12:44:00 +0000

Forum: Internet for translators
Topic: DeepL Write
Poster: Giovanni Guarnieri MITI, MIL
Post title: ?

[quote]Yaotl Altan wrote:
Would you legalize prostitution and drugs? Their supporters state that they would increase GDP faster, even if women suffer and many others die. [/quote]

We are talking about translation, Yaotl... context is king... :-)

DeepL Write | GDP

Yaotl Altan — Tue, 24 Jan 2023 03:15:00 +0000

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Topic: DeepL Write
Poster: Yaotl Altan
Post title: GDP

[quote]Giovanni Guarnieri MITI, MIL wrote:

If a tool makes me work faster and earn more, I will use it. The rest is "romanticism" as we say in Italian... :-) [/quote]

Would you legalize prostitution and drugs? Their supporters state that they would increase GDP faster, even if women suffer and many others die.

DeepL Write | Now imagine...

Daniel Frisano — Sun, 22 Jan 2023 15:22:00 +0000

Forum: Internet for translators
Topic: DeepL Write
Poster: Daniel Frisano
Post title: Now imagine...

... not needing any kind of machine writing because you can produce a better result in the same amount of time just relying on your own intellect. Pretty nice going, huh?

DeepL Write | Don't sell your soul...

Giovanni Guarnieri MITI, MIL — Sun, 22 Jan 2023 12:59:00 +0000

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Topic: DeepL Write
Poster: Giovanni Guarnieri MITI, MIL
Post title: Don't sell your soul...

too late for that... :-)

DeepL Write | Don't sell your soul!

Baran Keki — Sat, 21 Jan 2023 18:30:00 +0000

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Topic: DeepL Write
Poster: Baran Keki
Post title: Don't sell your soul!

[quote]Giovanni Guarnieri MITI, MIL wrote:

If a tool makes me work faster and earn more, I will use it. The rest is "romanticism" as we say in Italian... :-) [/quote]
But money isn't everything! There is more to translation than DeepL! Btw, you do have foodbanks over there, right?

DeepL Write | Money

Giovanni Guarnieri MITI, MIL — Sat, 21 Jan 2023 13:01:00 +0000

Forum: Internet for translators
Topic: DeepL Write
Poster: Giovanni Guarnieri MITI, MIL
Post title: Money

If a tool makes me work faster and earn more, I will use it. The rest is "romanticism" as we say in Italian... :-)

DeepL Write | Bad comparisons

Philip Lees — Sat, 21 Jan 2023 07:06:00 +0000

Forum: Internet for translators
Topic: DeepL Write
Poster: Philip Lees
Post title: Bad comparisons

[quote]Daniel Frisano wrote:

The sad thing...

... is that the standard we compare ourselves with is now a machine.
[/quote]
Speak for yourself.

DeepL Write | The sad thing...

Daniel Frisano — Sat, 21 Jan 2023 01:36:00 +0000

Forum: Internet for translators
Topic: DeepL Write
Poster: Daniel Frisano
Post title: The sad thing...

... is that the standard we compare ourselves with is now a machine.

We should aspire to write like Steinbeck, or Eco or Montanelli for us Italians, or whoever we regard as the highest expression in our working language.

We should use technical, scientific, legal or financial journals and publications as a reference instead of dull algorithms.

We should be perfecting and discussing the fine art of deverbalisation. (Raise your hand if you regularly use it. Yeah, that's what I thought.)

And we should keep practicing our source languages until they become second nature, quasi-native.

But of course all of that takes time and effort, and we can't resist the temptation of taking the easy shortcut. Go ahead, but don't complain any more if the rates keep going down. If we keep lowering our standards down to assembly line workers, why should we be paid as masters of the trade?

Perhaps you're assuming that you're perfectly entitled to save your precious time, but whoever pays for your "services" somehow is not entitled to save their equally precious money?

[Edited at 2023-01-21 02:11 GMT]

DeepL Write | Yes

Lingua 5B — Fri, 20 Jan 2023 16:32:00 +0000

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Topic: DeepL Write
Poster: Lingua 5B
Post title: Yes

[quote]Ice Scream wrote:

[quote]finnword1 wrote:

... to see suggestions or rewrite ...
it sould read: to see suggestions or to rewrite [/quote]
No, both are fine. [/quote]

Yes, both are correct as you can omit “to” in infinitives (although you don’t have to) after coordinating conjunctions (and, or, but, etc.) when joining two clauses or similar.

I believe the version with a to is more old-fashioned.

[Edited at 2023-01-20 16:33 GMT]

DeepL Write | Muphry

Philip Lees — Fri, 20 Jan 2023 05:43:00 +0000

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Topic: DeepL Write
Poster: Philip Lees
Post title: Muphry

[quote]finnword1 wrote:

... to see suggestions or rewrite ...
it sould read: to see suggestions or to rewrite [/quote]
Muphry's Law strikes again!

DeepL Write |

Daniel Frisano — Thu, 19 Jan 2023 22:44:00 +0000

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Topic: DeepL Write
Poster: Daniel Frisano
Post title:

Does that mean that even more "linguists" will give up using their natural language skills?

That's fantastic news for the few of us who still use (and hone) those skills! In a couple of years we'll feel like 20/20-sighted in the land of the half-blind.

DeepL Write | @Finnword

The Shredder — Thu, 19 Jan 2023 22:17:00 +0000

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Topic: DeepL Write
Poster: The Shredder
Post title: @Finnword

[quote]finnword1 wrote:

... to see suggestions or rewrite ...
it sould read: to see suggestions or to rewrite [/quote]
No, both are fine.

DeepL Write | You must be blessed with clients who actually know how to write

Riccardo Schiaffino — Thu, 19 Jan 2023 21:42:00 +0000

Forum: Internet for translators
Topic: DeepL Write
Poster: Riccardo Schiaffino
Post title: You must be blessed with clients who actually know how to write

[quote]Tom in London wrote:

I find this hilarious. Any time I use Deepl I spend a lot of time rewriting whatever it offers. The idea of Deepl correcting *my* language is just ridiculous. It's the other way round![/quote]

Correcting *your* language may be just ridiculous, but correcting what your clients write?

Either you are blessed with clients who actually know how to write their copy, or you find yourself in my situation: I often have to correct what they write before translating it. DeepL Write is not yet at the point in which it could speed up this process, but if it could, it would indeed be useful.

DeepL Write | For natives too!

Platary (X) — Thu, 19 Jan 2023 15:50:00 +0000

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Topic: DeepL Write
Poster: Platary (X)
Post title: For natives too!

Yesterday I received an email in French (sic) from a French communications professional and I wondered in what language he had written to me, as the syntax and grammar were so poor.

Perhaps using such a tool in French would have saved him from looking worse than a primary school pupil...

The real problem is the linguistic level of this correspondent, which unfortunately justifies the usefulness of this type of tool... which will only make things worse, like the automatic correctors on smartphones for example, or machine translations, but that is another story.

DeepL Write | Both sentences are wrong

finnword1 — Thu, 19 Jan 2023 15:30:00 +0000

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Topic: DeepL Write
Poster: finnword1
Post title: Both sentences are wrong

... to see suggestions or rewrite ...
it sould read: to see suggestions or to rewrite

DeepL Write | Style? I don't think so.

Lingua 5B — Thu, 19 Jan 2023 13:06:00 +0000

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Topic: DeepL Write
Poster: Lingua 5B
Post title: Style? I don't think so.

It "improves" sentence structure and grammar, style is something else.

Grammarly, Word spell-checker and many others do this. Is this tool yet another copy-cat on the market? I try to imagine artists copying each other's concepts all the time the way developers do. Bye bye intellectual rights.

DeepL Write | For non-natives

Dr. Matthias Schauen — Thu, 19 Jan 2023 12:48:00 +0000

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Topic: DeepL Write
Poster: Dr. Matthias Schauen
Post title: For non-natives

[quote]Tom in London wrote:

The idea of Deepl correcting *my* language is just ridiculous. It's the other way round!
[/quote]

DeepL Write | Very well possible

CafeTran Trainer — Thu, 19 Jan 2023 08:30:00 +0000

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Topic: DeepL Write
Poster: CafeTran Trainer
Post title: Very well possible

[quote]Tom in London wrote:

Any time I use Deepl I spend a lot of time rewriting whatever it offers. [/quote]

That is very well possible ...

DeepL Write | Hilarious

Tom in London — Thu, 19 Jan 2023 08:29:00 +0000

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Topic: DeepL Write
Poster: Tom in London
Post title: Hilarious

[quote]Hans Lenting wrote:

First they ask ChatGPT to write their paper, then they ask DeepL Write to correct the language.

I must confess: I didn't see this implementation of DeepL's LLM coming ... [/quote]

I find this hilarious. Any time I use Deepl I spend a lot of time rewriting whatever it offers. The idea of Deepl correcting *my* language is just ridiculous. It's the other way round!

[Edited at 2023-01-19 08:30 GMT]

DeepL Write | Students will love this

CafeTran Trainer — Thu, 19 Jan 2023 06:49:00 +0000

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Topic: DeepL Write
Poster: CafeTran Trainer
Post title: Students will love this

First they ask ChatGPT to write their paper, then they ask DeepL Write to correct the language.

I must confess: I didn't see this implementation of DeepL's LLM coming ...

DeepL Write | URL

CafeTran Trainer — Wed, 18 Jan 2023 17:16:00 +0000

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Topic: DeepL Write
Poster: CafeTran Trainer
Post title: URL

[url removed]

[Edited at 2023-01-19 06:44 GMT]

DeepL Write

CafeTran Trainer — Wed, 18 Jan 2023 17:15:00 +0000

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Topic: DeepL Write
Poster: CafeTran Trainer