Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
Permis de communiquer
English translation:
Authorisation to communicate
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French term
Permis de communiquer
French to English
Law/Patents
Law (general)
Criminal Law case files (France)
Salut!
Any help with this term in UK English would be appreciated. It is one of a number of documents relating to a criminal case (French Law). I think it is something like 'Authorisation to disclose / produce documents' but I'm not sure.
Cour d'Appel de XXXXX
Tribunal judiciaire de XXXXXX
Cabinet de
XXXXX XXXXXX
juge d' instruction
N° Parquet : XXX
N° de dos s i er : XXX
Permis de communiquer
Le juge d'instruction, XXXXX XXXXX , autorise Maître XXXX XXXX, porteur du présent, à
communiquer sous la surveillance d'un gardien et à la charge de se conformer aux règlements avec le nommé:
XXXXXX XXXXXX
détenu provisoirement à Centre Pénitentiaire de XXXXXX
Any help with this term in UK English would be appreciated. It is one of a number of documents relating to a criminal case (French Law). I think it is something like 'Authorisation to disclose / produce documents' but I'm not sure.
Cour d'Appel de XXXXX
Tribunal judiciaire de XXXXXX
Cabinet de
XXXXX XXXXXX
juge d' instruction
N° Parquet : XXX
N° de dos s i er : XXX
Permis de communiquer
Le juge d'instruction, XXXXX XXXXX , autorise Maître XXXX XXXX, porteur du présent, à
communiquer sous la surveillance d'un gardien et à la charge de se conformer aux règlements avec le nommé:
XXXXXX XXXXXX
détenu provisoirement à Centre Pénitentiaire de XXXXXX
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +4 | Authorisation to communicate |
AllegroTrans
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Proposed translations
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AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
Specializes in field
United Kingdom
Sensible solutions
Native in: English (Variant: Wessexois) 
Works in: French to English, English, English to French
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Authorisation to communicate
As Jennifer says, there is no equivalent term in English
A prisoner on remand in the UK always has the right to be visited by his/her lawyer without any permission of a judge
A prisoner on remand in the UK always has the right to be visited by his/her lawyer without any permission of a judge
Peer comment(s):
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philgoddard
: Or permission, of course.
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of course, thanks
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Anastasia Kalantzi
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thanks
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Jennifer Levey
: 'twould be churlish were I to disagree - so I won't :)
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I have never found you to be churlish
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Adrian MM.
: PSI/Prison Governor's permission and 12.9 court order variance permitting contact https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/...
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The ST is about a French judge giving permission, not a UK prison governor, and the document you cite doesn't refer to any authorisation process for legal rep. visits to persons remanded in custody
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Eliza Hall
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Many thanks, AllegroTrans!"
Reference comments
33 mins
Keith Jackson
France
France
Native in English
Works in field
France
En d'autres termes
Native in: English (Variants: Australian, British)
Works in: French to English, Italian to English
Related KudoZ points
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8
Reference:
AG_Guidelines_2022_Revision_Publication_Copy
Maybe a starting point: Attorney General’s Guidelines on Disclosure for investigators, prosecutors and defence practitioners
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Note added at 2 hrs (2023-02-19 16:46:05 GMT)
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https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/...
Copy paste if needs be.
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Note added at 2 hrs (2023-02-19 16:46:05 GMT)
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https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/...
Copy paste if needs be.
Peer comments on this reference comment:
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AllegroTrans
: Your link doesn't work but I'm not sure that this would help as the source is France, not UK
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Thank you for pointing out the link doesn't work. I know the source is FR, but the asker wants help with the term in UK English.
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Jennifer Levey
: The concept of 'disclosure' (or 'discovery') might be relevant if the ST said communiquer au nommé ... - but it actually says communiquer avec le nommé ....
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Jennifer Levey
Chile
Chile
Native in English
Specializes in field
Chile
Human-scale Globalization
Native in: English (Variant: British) 
Works in: Spanish to English, French to English, English to Spanish, and 2 more.
Related KudoZ points
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128
Reference:
VO (visiting order) - but very different to Asker's context
It is my understanding that in the UK a prisoner always has the right to receive a visit from his/her legal advisor, so no permit issued by the court would be necessary.
https://www.inbrief.co.uk/prison-law/prison-visits/
"Types of prison visits
There are two types of prison visits:
Social visits from friends and family members of the prisoner
+Official visits from legal advisors and other professionals
Official visits are not counted as part of a prisoner’s entitlement to social visits. These are additional visits allowed by prisoners on top of their entitlement.
The person seeking to visit must first receive a visiting order ‘VO’ which is completed by the prisoner and sent to them. This will state the name and address of those visiting, and a unique reference number to be used when booking the prison visit. (...)"
It is unlikely, therefore, that there is any equivalent "term in UK English" as requested by Asker, and a literal translation of the French will suffice.
https://www.inbrief.co.uk/prison-law/prison-visits/
"Types of prison visits
There are two types of prison visits:
Social visits from friends and family members of the prisoner
+Official visits from legal advisors and other professionals
Official visits are not counted as part of a prisoner’s entitlement to social visits. These are additional visits allowed by prisoners on top of their entitlement.
The person seeking to visit must first receive a visiting order ‘VO’ which is completed by the prisoner and sent to them. This will state the name and address of those visiting, and a unique reference number to be used when booking the prison visit. (...)"
It is unlikely, therefore, that there is any equivalent "term in UK English" as requested by Asker, and a literal translation of the French will suffice.
Peer comments on this reference comment:
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AllegroTrans
: literal translation of the French - yes
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Adrian MM.
: You mean you don't know cf. PSI/ Prison Governor's permission & 12.9 court order variance permitting contact https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/...
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Duff link: {"_response_info":{"status":"not found"}}
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Discussion
What's communiquer avec un détenu in legal English?