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Dec 3, 2016 09:39
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Russian term

реже – больше

Russian to English Science Geography
Район Семипалатинского полигона находится в области распространения пресных и солоноватых вод с минерализацией до 3 г/л, реже – больше.
Proposed translations (English)
3 +3 rarely more
4 +5 [and] in rare cases greater
4 +1 less often — with higher (concentration)
4 more rarely, greater
3 -1 seldom greater

Discussion

Cornelius Gillen Dec 6, 2016:
up to 3 g/l, occasionally greater than this.
The Misha Dec 3, 2016:
Well, to me it's not a distinction without a difference. "Hardly ever more" (i.e., never) is not the same as "occasionally greater," don't you think?
Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D. Dec 3, 2016:
@The Misha: I was about to ask my learned colleagues whether we have here "a distinction without a difference" and beg to be educated about it. Yes, the sentence can use a rewriting.
The Misha Dec 3, 2016:
I just don't read the two answers offered this way That is, until I see them used in the actual sentence. The intended meaning here is that on occasion (rarely), this mineralization may exceed the stated percentage. Using either of these answers here - as in "...mineralizaion of up to 3 g/l, rarely more" - means exactly the opposite - that this percentage is HARDLY EVER exceeded. I would rephrase as "...up to 3 g/l, which may on occasion be even higher". Or something to that effect. To be sure, this is indeed a very poorly written sentence in Russian.

Proposed translations

+3
40 mins
Selected

rarely more

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Peer comment(s):
agree Jack Doughty : rarely more than...
48 mins
Thank you, Jack :)
agree Anton Konashenok
3 hrs
agree Сергей Лузан : rarely higher
9 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "I like Rachel's answer too, but I have gone for this one. Many thanks all round."
-1
11 mins

seldom greater

IMO

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Note added at 5 hrs (2016-12-03 14:39:36 GMT)
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To put that in other words, water can hold a lot of salt before it becomes saturated- over 100 parts per thousand. In the ocean, salinity is seldom greater than 40 parts per thousand, especially in deep waters.
http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/jan2001/979511293.Es.r....
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Residual Na2CO3 concentration is seldom greater than 250 ppm.
https://books.google.com/books?id=iSjgBAAAQBAJ&pg=PA89&lpg=P...
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Because potential evaporativiry is seldom greater than this, it follows that a water-table rise above that depth would not be likely to increase the evaporation rate
https://books.google.com/books?id=XZYGOe2WcdkC&pg=PA31&lpg=P...
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It should be mentioned that seawater pH is seldom greater than 8.3.
https://books.google.com/books?id=AbHflCKg5YkC&pg=PA122&lpg=...
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Variations across the open sound at any time are slight, seldom greater than 1
https://books.google.com/books?id=aT9SAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA79&lpg=P...
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The flow path in such systems is seldom greater than a few...
http://www.kingisland.tas.gov.au/webdata/resources/files/4__...
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Salinity differences between surface and bottom were seldom greater than 2 ppt a
http://www.ices.dk/sites/pub/Publication Reports/Marine Scie...
Peer comment(s):
disagree Jack slep : With all due respect, this is just verbosity
14 hrs
I disagree with both of your statements, but that is beside the point. Not convinced by examples from SCIENTIFIC literature? Greater is used for quantitative comparisons. Synonyms: seldom, rarely, occasionally, hardly, scarcely, ..
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+1
4 hrs

less often — with higher (concentration)

IMHO

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Note added at 4 hrs (2016-12-03 14:09:25 GMT)
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or "...higher salinity", "...higher mineralization"

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Note added at 5 hrs (2016-12-03 14:59:40 GMT)
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по-моему, смысл такой: в этой области реже встречаются воды с большей степенью минерализации (т.е. больше 3 г/л)
Peer comment(s):
agree The Misha : Yes, that's the meaning, only you are mimicking the original Russian syntax, which doesn't work. This needs to be rephrased.
1 hr
Thanks for your comment!
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+5
9 hrs

[and] in rare cases greater

"... with mineralization levels of up to 3 g/L, and in rare cases greater". Or "higher," if you do use "levels."


Peer comment(s):
agree Jack slep : or greater/higher in rare cases (same thing phrased differently)
5 hrs
Thank you, Jack!
agree El oso
12 hrs
Thank you.
agree Ilan Rubin (X)
23 hrs
Thanks, Ilan.
agree svetlana cosquéric
2 days 46 mins
Thanks, Svetlana.
agree Cornelius Gillen : I think you could put "occasionally higher"
2 days 19 hrs
Thank you.
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15 hrs

more rarely, greater

a simple statement, no big deal!
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