Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
griffer (la terre)
English translation:
turn (soil over)
Added to glossary by
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
Mar 28, 2002 14:58
22 yrs ago
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French term
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Native in: English 
Works in: French to English
griffer
French to English
Tech/Engineering
Wine / Oenology / Viticulture
wine growing
Context : Wine growing.
Extract : « Les vignes de XXX sont constituées de 4 âges différents. Maintenant le domaine fait du repiquage. Le rendement moyen est en dessous des 35hl/ha.
Le vignes sont griffées, labourées mais pas buttées ni désherbées. AAA regrette que l’ensemble des producteurs ne se soient pas entendus pour faire de la confusion sexuelle contre les vers de la grappe. »
Problem: The translation of "griffées" here. I'm trying to think of the name of a tool used but it plain escapes me. Any ideas?
Extract : « Les vignes de XXX sont constituées de 4 âges différents. Maintenant le domaine fait du repiquage. Le rendement moyen est en dessous des 35hl/ha.
Le vignes sont griffées, labourées mais pas buttées ni désherbées. AAA regrette que l’ensemble des producteurs ne se soient pas entendus pour faire de la confusion sexuelle contre les vers de la grappe. »
Problem: The translation of "griffées" here. I'm trying to think of the name of a tool used but it plain escapes me. Any ideas?
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +2 | griffer/griffe |
Sheila Hardie
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| 4 +2 | hoed |
DPolice
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| 5 | pruned |
Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
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| 4 | blaze |
depgrl (X)
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| 4 | raked |
zaphod
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| 4 | aerated |
Steven Geller
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| 4 -1 | to graft, grafted |
RHELLER
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| 3 | the vines are lopped |
Yolanda Broad
|
Proposed translations
+2
40 mins
Sheila Hardie
Spain
Spain
Native in English
Works in field
Spain
passion des mots
Native in: English
Works in: Catalan to English, French to English, Spanish to English, and 2 more.
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8
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griffer/griffe
I know there is a specific term for this instrument in English, but it has escaped me right now. I will keep on thinking!
HTH
Sheila
Griffer
Emietter la surface de la terre qui forme une croûte à l'aide d'un outil à 3 dents appelé griffe.
http://www.webjardinier.com/webj/conseils/glossaire.asp?lett...
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Note added at 2002-03-28 15:43:27 (GMT)
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It might be hoe or hand hoe, but I think there is another name out there somewhere!
Organic Cost Study: Organic Wine Grapes--With an Annual Sown ...
... July) during the growing season to accommodate ... Vine Weeds - Hand Hoe 2X** 8.00 64.32 ... EXTENSION
ORGANIC WINE GRAPES - 1992 - WITH ... 22.69 Shop tools 270.27 16.22 ...
www.sarep.ucdavis.edu/pubs/costs/92/grape1.htm - 93k - Cached - Similar pages
[PDF] WINE GRAPES
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
... and production expenses for growing the vines through ... Weed Control - Hand Hoe $23
Weed Control ... San Joaquin Valley Wine Grape Cost and ... 13 13 Shop Tools $5 5 8 ...
www.agecon.ucdavis.edu/outreach/crop/cost-studies/97WinGrpS... - Similar pages
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Note added at 2002-03-28 15:57:17 (GMT)
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Here is a wee picture of this three-pronged hoe - or whatever it is called. HTH Sheila
http://www.leroymerlin.fr/catalogue/bin/bbdisplay.exe?todo=w...‚teaux,%20fourches...&idsession=164743013.49093&mycount=94&h=0&kc=-1509972809
Griffes et cultivateurs : pour affiner la terre après labour, briser les mottes...
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Note added at 2002-03-28 16:02:35 (GMT)
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There is a picture of this \'garden claw\' that looks like the griffe. HTH Sheila
http://www.gardenscapetools.com/pages/gardentools.html
The Gold Garden Claw\'s patented design creates a corkscrew action that easily breaks up all sorts of soil with little effort on your part.
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Note added at 2002-03-28 16:08:26 (GMT)
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I have found yet another photo - this time of a cultivator - it looks just like the picture of the griffe. There is a photo of a claw on the same page. See what you think, Nikki. HTH Sheila
http://www.carryongardening.org.uk/page02_6.asp
A large three-pronged cultivating tool used for quickly breaking up compacted soil. The tool is dragged backwards through the soil and can therefore be used without lifting or having to bend. Two hands are generally required to maintain downward pressure. It has stainless steel prongs and a snap-lock handle fitted to a wooden handle (available separately).
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Note added at 2002-03-28 16:09:36 (GMT)
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Cultivating tools
Points to consider:
1. A cultivating tool is a specialised tool for breaking up compacted soil. They are available in many shapes and sizes. Some of the larger ones can be adjusted to different widths to cultivate between rows of plants.
2. Cultivators work by dragging though the soil. The soil may then be leveled to some extent the soil by a pushing action.
3. Hand versions can be more easily moved sideways and are more efficient than a hand fork in this respect.
http://www.carryongardening.org.uk/page02_6.asp
HTH
Sheila
Griffer
Emietter la surface de la terre qui forme une croûte à l'aide d'un outil à 3 dents appelé griffe.
http://www.webjardinier.com/webj/conseils/glossaire.asp?lett...
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Note added at 2002-03-28 15:43:27 (GMT)
--------------------------------------------------
It might be hoe or hand hoe, but I think there is another name out there somewhere!
Organic Cost Study: Organic Wine Grapes--With an Annual Sown ...
... July) during the growing season to accommodate ... Vine Weeds - Hand Hoe 2X** 8.00 64.32 ... EXTENSION
ORGANIC WINE GRAPES - 1992 - WITH ... 22.69 Shop tools 270.27 16.22 ...
www.sarep.ucdavis.edu/pubs/costs/92/grape1.htm - 93k - Cached - Similar pages
[PDF] WINE GRAPES
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
... and production expenses for growing the vines through ... Weed Control - Hand Hoe $23
Weed Control ... San Joaquin Valley Wine Grape Cost and ... 13 13 Shop Tools $5 5 8 ...
www.agecon.ucdavis.edu/outreach/crop/cost-studies/97WinGrpS... - Similar pages
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Note added at 2002-03-28 15:57:17 (GMT)
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Here is a wee picture of this three-pronged hoe - or whatever it is called. HTH Sheila
http://www.leroymerlin.fr/catalogue/bin/bbdisplay.exe?todo=w...‚teaux,%20fourches...&idsession=164743013.49093&mycount=94&h=0&kc=-1509972809
Griffes et cultivateurs : pour affiner la terre après labour, briser les mottes...
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Note added at 2002-03-28 16:02:35 (GMT)
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There is a picture of this \'garden claw\' that looks like the griffe. HTH Sheila
http://www.gardenscapetools.com/pages/gardentools.html
The Gold Garden Claw\'s patented design creates a corkscrew action that easily breaks up all sorts of soil with little effort on your part.
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Note added at 2002-03-28 16:08:26 (GMT)
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I have found yet another photo - this time of a cultivator - it looks just like the picture of the griffe. There is a photo of a claw on the same page. See what you think, Nikki. HTH Sheila
http://www.carryongardening.org.uk/page02_6.asp
A large three-pronged cultivating tool used for quickly breaking up compacted soil. The tool is dragged backwards through the soil and can therefore be used without lifting or having to bend. Two hands are generally required to maintain downward pressure. It has stainless steel prongs and a snap-lock handle fitted to a wooden handle (available separately).
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Note added at 2002-03-28 16:09:36 (GMT)
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Cultivating tools
Points to consider:
1. A cultivating tool is a specialised tool for breaking up compacted soil. They are available in many shapes and sizes. Some of the larger ones can be adjusted to different widths to cultivate between rows of plants.
2. Cultivators work by dragging though the soil. The soil may then be leveled to some extent the soil by a pushing action.
3. Hand versions can be more easily moved sideways and are more efficient than a hand fork in this respect.
http://www.carryongardening.org.uk/page02_6.asp
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
: Yes, this is to it. To hoe the earth.
17 mins
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| agree |
Yolanda Broad
: This is called a "cultivator"
45 mins
|
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks for all your hard work on this one Sheila. As the sentence goes on with "labourer...butter...désherber", I plumped for "griffer" meaning to turn the soil over with a cultivator. Yolanda's suggestion was interesting but in context, I think that although the text says "les vignes sont...", I think it is referring to the soil.
I now know that the twisted pronged claw hoe like thing is called a "cultivator".
Thanks a lot,
Nikki"
2 mins
depgrl (X)
depgrl (X)
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blaze
TERMIUM
Silviculture
Silviculture
5 mins
pruned
and the implement is "pruning shears"
Olé....:)
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Note added at 2002-03-28 15:37:42 (GMT)
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to tell you the truth, Nikki, the pruning came to mind but I had not a whit of idea what griffer meant
Olé....:)
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Note added at 2002-03-28 15:37:42 (GMT)
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to tell you the truth, Nikki, the pruning came to mind but I had not a whit of idea what griffer meant
-1
24 mins
to graft, grafted
Grafted vines should have the graft
union situated approximately 2 inches above the level of the vineyard floor (Vis. 9).
union situated approximately 2 inches above the level of the vineyard floor (Vis. 9).
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
ydmills
: to graft is "greffer" so unless the asker's spelt it wrong.....but graft would seem logical in the context. So check the spelling!
8 mins
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spelt is a type of grain
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+2
27 mins
hoed
the earth is scratched superficially with a hoe
Reference:
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
ydmills
: Yes, if it's spelt correctly in the text. "Hoe" is the tool too.
6 mins
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| agree |
Dr. Chrys Chrystello
9 hrs
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1 hr
Yolanda Broad
United States
United States
Native in English
United States
Fren & Span to Eng, a ProZ Pro!
Native in: English
Works in: French to English, Spanish to English
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4
the vines are lopped
It looks to me like the vines are being lopped. I'm getting this from one of the meanings of "griffe" I find in Termium, which is to "crown" (for asparagus--that is, the part that is left at the top of the rootstock), plus that Termium entry for "griffer," which is "blazed," that is, where a chunk of bark is removed by something like a machete (the tool I assume you are thinking of?). Grapes are produced on second year growth (that is, on what was new growth from the previous year). To ensure strong production of grapes, you want to get rid of all but the single most promising second-year vine. [When we wouldn't do that to our, alas, now-defunct grapevine, the grapes would be tiny and subject to drop]. The generic term for the tool that cuts off small branches is a *lopper*.
See Google search results URL (1,170 hits):
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q= lopper branches
Here is an example I found on the Web for "lopped," related to grape cultivation:
World reviews of everything from art to football to wine. Read ...
... for vignerons and winemakers. All the vines, which produced fruit for the previous vintage, must have their canes and spurs lopped off, pruned back and wrapped ...
www.worldreviews.com/WINE0006_AUG2001.htm
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Mind you, I do find "blazing" for griffage, in both Termium and LGDT, but can't come up with anything, using Google, that would indicate that such a practice would be used in vineyards--I would think that blazing a grapevine would hinder the flow of sap, hence the crop itself!
Here is what LGDT has on "griffage" in the sense of "blazing":
Domaine(s) foresterie récolte du bois
blazing (a)
Entrée(s) additionnelle(s):
marking (a)
griffage n m (a)
Marquage des arbres au moyen d'un coup de «griffe» ou d'un trait de couleur si, par exemple, les sujets à marquer ne sont pas assez forts pour recevoir l'empreinte du marteau. (a) [1978]
And the following, but with no translation:
Domaine(s) agriculture sylviculture
griffage n m (a)
Marquage, avec une griffe, par exemple de baliveaux dans une coupe de taillis-sous-futaie pour indiquer qu'ils sont réservés. (a)
[1977]
TBT17574192
See Google search results URL (1,170 hits):
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q= lopper branches
Here is an example I found on the Web for "lopped," related to grape cultivation:
World reviews of everything from art to football to wine. Read ...
... for vignerons and winemakers. All the vines, which produced fruit for the previous vintage, must have their canes and spurs lopped off, pruned back and wrapped ...
www.worldreviews.com/WINE0006_AUG2001.htm
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Mind you, I do find "blazing" for griffage, in both Termium and LGDT, but can't come up with anything, using Google, that would indicate that such a practice would be used in vineyards--I would think that blazing a grapevine would hinder the flow of sap, hence the crop itself!
Here is what LGDT has on "griffage" in the sense of "blazing":
Domaine(s) foresterie récolte du bois
blazing (a)
Entrée(s) additionnelle(s):
marking (a)
griffage n m (a)
Marquage des arbres au moyen d'un coup de «griffe» ou d'un trait de couleur si, par exemple, les sujets à marquer ne sont pas assez forts pour recevoir l'empreinte du marteau. (a) [1978]
And the following, but with no translation:
Domaine(s) agriculture sylviculture
griffage n m (a)
Marquage, avec une griffe, par exemple de baliveaux dans une coupe de taillis-sous-futaie pour indiquer qu'ils sont réservés. (a)
[1977]
TBT17574192
1 hr
raked
Only one we didn't try yet
2 hrs
aerated
The vines are aerated, as in this example...
Gray Monk Estate Winery & Vineyards, Okanagan Centre, British ... - [ Traduire cette page ]
... and the soil is aerated. The graft zone of the young plants are covered for protection
against the coming winter cold. Winter: The vines lie dormant, sometimes ...
Gray Monk Estate Winery & Vineyards, Okanagan Centre, British ... - [ Traduire cette page ]
... and the soil is aerated. The graft zone of the young plants are covered for protection
against the coming winter cold. Winter: The vines lie dormant, sometimes ...
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