Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Jun 14, 2007 21:47
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Spanish term
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templado
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Explica las técnicas practicadas, las llamadas en “frío” (laminado, repujado, pulido) y las “complementarias” (incrustación, engastado, TEMPLADO); luego, aquéllas en las que interviene el CALOR (fundición, recubrimiento, unión).
Since "tempering" involves heating the metal, I'm assuming that isn't the right translation for "templado" in this context. Does anyone know what this means? TIA!
Since "tempering" involves heating the metal, I'm assuming that isn't the right translation for "templado" in this context. Does anyone know what this means? TIA!
Proposed translations
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| 5 | hardening |
bigedsenior
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| 5 +8 | tempering |
Fabricio Castillo
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| 5 | tempering |
Simon Charass
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| 4 | Cold tempering |
Roberto Rey
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Jun 17, 2007 16:55: bigedsenior Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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hardening
This question sounds like jewelry or artisan metallurgy.
When some metals are worked by being bent or hammered they inc rease in hardness or stiffness. A good example is copper wire and tubing. The metal is easy to bend the first time, but if you try to reverse it you will see that it is much harder. In metallurgical terms this is 'work hardening'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewelry_wire_gauge
When some metals are worked by being bent or hammered they inc rease in hardness or stiffness. A good example is copper wire and tubing. The metal is easy to bend the first time, but if you try to reverse it you will see that it is much harder. In metallurgical terms this is 'work hardening'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewelry_wire_gauge
Note from asker:
| Yes, Ed, you've got it right. I guess my nose is too close to this text and I forgot to explain that this is describing pre-Columbian silversmithing. |
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you, Ed, and everyone, for the good answers. I believe thta in the context, this is the only one that makes sense (I didn't remember that silver could be hardened by just hammering it, but that was mentioned much earlier in this text.)"
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tempering
Así de simple/ ¡Suerte!
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Uf, recién veo que también podría ser hardening o quenching... Así que voto por hardening nomás. Sorry...
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Note added at 5 minutos (2007-06-14 21:53:11 GMT)
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Si no leo mal, en tu lista tienes operaciones que se pueden realizar al metal, no solamente templados, ¿verdad? En tal caso, el templado es uno de esos procesos, por lo cual no se incluye en los trabajos "calientes". Si te fijas, la parte de calor solamente hace referencia a la fundición y fusión...
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Note added at 11 minutos (2007-06-14 21:58:18 GMT)
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Pat, insisto en que si el texto habla de trabajos básicos que se pueden realizar en los metales, el templado no es uno "básico", sino uno opcional. Creo que por eso lo consideran "complementario".
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:-)
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Note added at 3 minutos (2007-06-14 21:50:34 GMT)
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Uf, recién veo que también podría ser hardening o quenching... Así que voto por hardening nomás. Sorry...
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Note added at 5 minutos (2007-06-14 21:53:11 GMT)
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Si no leo mal, en tu lista tienes operaciones que se pueden realizar al metal, no solamente templados, ¿verdad? En tal caso, el templado es uno de esos procesos, por lo cual no se incluye en los trabajos "calientes". Si te fijas, la parte de calor solamente hace referencia a la fundición y fusión...
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Note added at 11 minutos (2007-06-14 21:58:18 GMT)
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Pat, insisto en que si el texto habla de trabajos básicos que se pueden realizar en los metales, el templado no es uno "básico", sino uno opcional. Creo que por eso lo consideran "complementario".
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Note added at 18 minutos (2007-06-14 22:05:17 GMT)
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:-)
Note from asker:
| Fabricio, En mi nota, explico que no se entiende como puede ser dado a que no aparece en la lista de técnicas a calor. ¿Conoces un tipo de templado que no usa el calor? Gracias! |
| Pues sigo sin entender como "hardening" puede ser técnica complementaria. Yo ya sabía todas estas traducciones, pero busco algo que quepa aquí--técnica sin calor, tipo complementaria... |
| Fabricio: That's beginning to make more sense to me. Thanks for your patience and time! |
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myrcarromero
: OK. MYR
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¡Gracias, MYR! Igualmente creo que debería ser hardening...
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Clare Macnamara
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¡Gracias, Clare!
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BristolTEc
: It must be - perhaps not counted among the "calor" processes because the temperature is much lower and "complementary" because you cannot temper what has not been hardened.- I'm voting for tempering, but how CAN Spanish use the same word for harden/temper
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You're right. The original seems to be quite tricky... Thank you!
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Michael Powers (PhD)
: si, tempering y hardening - Mike :)
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Sip, dado el caso, cualquiera se podría utilizar. ¡Gracias, Mike!
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R. Alex Jenkins
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Thank you, Richard!
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Rodrigo Mencía
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¡Gracias, Rodrigo!
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¡Gracias!
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Tim Jenkins
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Thank you, Tim!
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Roberto Rey
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Cold tempering
Hay tambien solo "cold Tempering"
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Yo he visto a unos "indios" haciendo unas cosas.... bueno no sabia que era de esa época, claro no puede ser!
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Yo he visto a unos "indios" haciendo unas cosas.... bueno no sabia que era de esa época, claro no puede ser!
Note from asker:
| Lo dudo también porque utilice temperaturas muy, muy frías y esto trata de los indios en el tiempo de la llegada de los españoles. ¡De todos modos, gracias! |
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tempering
I read the asker’s note and I still think this is the correct answer.
The following definition of “tempering” is extracted from the GDT:
Heat treatment carried out on a product in the hardened state. It results either in softening which improves the ductility characteristics or in secondary hardening. Heating hardened, normalized, or mechanically worked steel to some temperature below the transformation range, and holding for a suitable time at that temperature, followed by cooling at a suitable rate, for the purpose of producing a desired combination of mechanical properties.
The difference consists not in the presence or not of “heat” but in its intensity, which determines the end result. Note the wording “to some temperature below the transformation range”.
The IATE also gives “tempering” as the correct translation for “templado”.
The following definition of “tempering” is extracted from the GDT:
Heat treatment carried out on a product in the hardened state. It results either in softening which improves the ductility characteristics or in secondary hardening. Heating hardened, normalized, or mechanically worked steel to some temperature below the transformation range, and holding for a suitable time at that temperature, followed by cooling at a suitable rate, for the purpose of producing a desired combination of mechanical properties.
The difference consists not in the presence or not of “heat” but in its intensity, which determines the end result. Note the wording “to some temperature below the transformation range”.
The IATE also gives “tempering” as the correct translation for “templado”.
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