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Feb 5, 2008 08:04
16 yrs ago
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Czech term

okenní ostění

Czech to English Tech/Engineering Architecture
Here's a good one to chew on...

Here's the context:
Zachovaly se i renesanční vstupní portály, okenní ostění a ve východním křídle zámku i rozsáhlé klenuté sklepy
Proposed translations (English)
4 +2 (window) jamb
4 jambstone>
4 window reveal
4 -1 window lining
4 -1 window tapering or entasis
4 -1 moldings
3 -1 window arch

Discussion

Igor Liba Feb 5, 2008:
suhlasim s pavlom, treba zobrat do uvahy kontext
Igor Liba Feb 5, 2008:
v pripade "jumping vault" bola pouzita tato stranka http://www.krivoklat.cz/vykladovy-slovnik/?akce=logout&pisme... - najdete tam aj ostenie ;-)
Sarka Rubkova Feb 5, 2008:
Výše uvedená terminologie platí pro pozemní stavby, u důlních staveb to může být jinak (viz ostění tunelu).
Sarka Rubkova Feb 5, 2008:
Z toho pro mne plyne, že jamb = ostění, reveal = špaleta nebo slay.
České definice: Technický slovník, Ottův slovník naučný. Zednická příručka.
Pak existují další výrazy jako: jamb lining - obklad ostění, reveal lining = deštění špalety.
Sarka Rubkova Feb 5, 2008:
Špaleta je část otvoru (oknního nebo dveřního), která zbývá po vystojení otvoru (tj po osazení okna nebo dveří).
Ostění je svislá začištěná část otvoru okenního. Může být rovné, šikmé nebo zalomené.
Sarka Rubkova Feb 5, 2008:
Reveal is visible part of a jamb in which lies between the glass (or door) and wall.
Slay is the same but diagonally cut. ) Source: Fleming, Honour, Pevsner: Dictionary of architecture
Sarka Rubkova Feb 5, 2008:
Takže Vás zase poučím o terminologii architektury: Jamb is vertical flank of wall opening to the full thickness of the wall. Definition from John S. Scott: Dictionary of building
Igor Liba Feb 5, 2008:
OSTENIE, ŠPALETA - zvislé okraje múrov, ktoré vymedzujú okná a dvere; postranné časti otvoru okien a dvier; môžu byť pravouhlé, alebo zošikmené - http://www.hrady.sk/?dic=list&from=75
Sarka Rubkova Feb 5, 2008:
Pro všechny odpovídající - ostění (oken I dveří) je vlastně vnitví strana otvoru, čili ta zeď, která zbyde a kterou vidíte po osazení (instalaci okna).

Proposed translations

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(window) jamb

OED: 2. Arch. Each of the side posts of a doorway, window, or chimney-piece, upon which rests the lintel; a cheek; esp., in popular use, (pl.) the stone sides or cheeks of a fire-place.
Peer comment(s):
agree Sarka Rubkova
16 mins
agree Jennifer Hejtmankova : http://www.elore.com/Gothic/Glossary/structure.htm
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks for answering and mainly for waiting. I had to get together with a friend who restores churches and paintings, with a pretty darn good background in this stuff...Based on his explanation, I believe this (window) jamb to be the most accurate, but I am still reluctant to add it to the glossary. I can see it was quite a hot potato."
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21 mins

window lining

from dictionary, also found in yahoo
Reference:

http://www.windowanddoor.net/indcu_amsco.htm

Peer comment(s):
disagree Sarka Rubkova : to by spíš byl obklad okna
19 mins
i špaletu lze přeložit tímto způsobem
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24 mins

window arch

Maybe not universal but certainly an option in this context
Peer comment(s):
disagree Sarka Rubkova : to je okenná oblouk
17 mins
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35 mins

window tapering or entasis

Given the context, the term seems to refer to window tapering, which is a type of gradual slimming of a bulge or relevant ornate decoration. The window example of tapering is seen in fig. 125 in the second link.
Reference:

http://www.cartage.org.lb/en/themes/Arts/Architec/Generalities/ArtOfArchitecture/ArtOfArchitecture.htm#10

http://content.cdlib.org/xtf/view?docId=ft0x0n99zf&doc.view=content&chunk.id=d0e3154&toc.depth=1&anchor.id=0&brand=eschol

Peer comment(s):
disagree Sarka Rubkova : bohožul to ostění není, viz definice ostění výše
9 mins
If the original style of the text is very technical without many adj., then jamb is certainly a possible option. Otherwise, the term tapering provides a reference to the renaissance style of the particular opening.
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6 hrs

moldings

for this type of architecture, see Details below


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moldings around windows, e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Palazzo_Farnese.JPG

you're welcome scott
Reference:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renaissance_architecture

Note from asker:
without "windows" to describe where? thanks Pavle
Peer comment(s):
disagree Sarka Rubkova : Ostění je pouze svislá část - není kolem dokola. Countours given to projecting members. The same source as above. In Czech: ozdobná římsa or
3 hrs
no, ostění is not just vertical--it is the framing all around a window hole. and ostění now is completely different from ostění in the renaissance period. pls. use this context in your peer comments. thanks.
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1 day 6 hrs

jambstone>

ostění - architektonicke ORAMOVANI OTVORU okna nebo dveri z KAMENE nebo DREVA def. from > www.hradkarlstejn.cz/vykladovy-slovnik/o/

ostění - obklad stien, tunelov ale tiez rám > http://cs.wikipedia.org

jamb> jambe>jambstone > def. > find in any dictionary...

jambstone - a rock set vertically at the edge of a window or door openings so that it provides the side of the opening > http://www.answers.com/jamb stone
or Websters dictionary or ....

also> ostění, okenní ostění - fensterleibung (germ.) - window lining (eng.)
http://www.hlina.info/cs/projektyslovnik-nemecky.html
window lining - http://www.slovnik.cz

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30 mins

window reveal

one tip

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some other links

http://www.australbrick.com.au/global/product_info.php?State...

http://www.quinn-lite.com/downloads/drawings/pdf/QL-TD-014.p...

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http://www.roughwood.net/PhotoAlbum/2004 Album/StainedGlass2...



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Carter B Horsley - The Upper East Side Book - "The building has a one-story rusticated limestone base and a canopied entrance with a doorman beneath an attractive, rusticated limestone window reveal on the second floor and a very impressive and ornate limestone window reveal on the third floor flanked by female figures"
Reference:

http://www.fusionbuild.com/engineers/pages/window%20reveal.htm

Peer comment(s):
neutral Sarka Rubkova : může být, ale spíše se používá u špaletových oken
12 mins
ostenie alebo špaleta ;-)
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