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Feb 2, 2009 09:12
15 yrs ago
Catalan term
perfil/doble perfil
Catalan to English
Other
Business/Commerce (general)
HR
This is one of those words that always gets me.
In many cases, like this one, "profile" does not fit very well:
"La conceptualització, la creativitat, etc., són imprescindibles en el procés creatiu. El doble perfil del personal docent busca aquesta dualitat en els continguts del programa."
In particular, I am unsure about the "doble perfil" (though I'd also like general help with "perfil").
I have some thoughts of my own on this but feel there is no simple answer!
Other examples are:
"Perfils professionals amb acreditada experiència" (describing people who may apply)
"...els instruments que li permetin adquirir un perfil professional innovador posseïdor dels coneixements i capacitats..."
"Per assolir aquest perfil innovador, la pràctica del creatiu s’integrarà en el context del mercat real, global, complex, canviant i molt competitiu"
Many thanks
In many cases, like this one, "profile" does not fit very well:
"La conceptualització, la creativitat, etc., són imprescindibles en el procés creatiu. El doble perfil del personal docent busca aquesta dualitat en els continguts del programa."
In particular, I am unsure about the "doble perfil" (though I'd also like general help with "perfil").
I have some thoughts of my own on this but feel there is no simple answer!
Other examples are:
"Perfils professionals amb acreditada experiència" (describing people who may apply)
"...els instruments que li permetin adquirir un perfil professional innovador posseïdor dels coneixements i capacitats..."
"Per assolir aquest perfil innovador, la pràctica del creatiu s’integrarà en el context del mercat real, global, complex, canviant i molt competitiu"
Many thanks
Proposed translations
(English)
| 5 | PROFESSIONAL/OCCUPATIONAL JOB PROFILE (doble see below) |
Ross Andrew Parker
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| 2 | dual role / dual nature |
Sheila Hardie
|
Proposed translations
12 mins
Sheila Hardie
Spain
Spain
Native in English
Works in field
Spain
passion des mots
Native in: English 
Works in: Catalan to English, French to English, Spanish to English, and 2 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
20
dual role / dual nature
Maybe 'dual role' would be possible here. Or even 'dual nature'? But you could also say 'profile', particularly in 'professional profile'.
HTH
Sheila
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HTH
Sheila
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Create a professional profile on Facebook. With one-click, upload your resume in or import your LinkedIn profile and recommendations.
www.facebook.com/apps/application.php?id=2358483321 - 43k - Còpia en memòria - Pàgines semblants
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Search Professional Profile - [ Tradueix aquesta pàgina ]
Search a Professional Profile either by name or by specialty. Enter any or all of the criteria with the respective search group, then click the 'Search' or ...
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8 mins
Ross Andrew Parker
Native in English
Specializes in field
An eye for detail
Native in: English
Works in: Catalan to English, Spanish to English
Related KudoZ points
:
44
PROFESSIONAL/OCCUPATIONAL JOB PROFILE (doble see below)
Doble perfil > It is essential that teaching staff have both of these qualities in order to ensure that they are also present/reflected in programme content.
http://www.eurofound.europa.eu/emire/SPAIN/PROFESSIONALOCCUP...
SPAIN
PERFIL PROFESIONAL
PROFESSIONAL/OCCUPATIONAL JOB PROFILE
Description of the characteristics a worker must possess for a particular job (experience, aptitude, attitude to work, leadership or social skills, etc.). It is indispensable for thorough personnel selection and to establish vocational training needs, and may have a bearing on occupational classification and functional mobility .
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Note added at 10 mins (2009-02-02 09:23:07 GMT)
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It seems that the "doble perfil" in this case refers to the ability to conceptualize AND be creative (both important for teaching staff because they're qualities that should be reflected in the programme).
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Note added at 31 mins (2009-02-02 09:44:09 GMT)
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I think the best option for "perfil" in general depends on the particular sentence. "PROFESSIONAL/OCCUPATIONAL JOB PROFILE" could do the job, but there may be other (better) options.
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Note added at 7 hrs (2009-02-02 16:20:42 GMT)
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"A partir d’aquest diploma de postgrau es vol potenciar la formació del perfil del dissenyador de mobles o moblista com un agent amb una actitud i una metodologia diferenciades respecte a d’altres disciplines projectuals"
Can't you just ignore the "perfil" in this case: "...training of furniture designers..."
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Note added at 7 hrs (2009-02-02 16:22:53 GMT)
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Perhaps in mane cases you need to think about the meaning of the sentence as a whole rather than getting fixated on a particular problematic word. In the case of awkward words there's probably not going to be any solution that works in every case.
http://www.eurofound.europa.eu/emire/SPAIN/PROFESSIONALOCCUP...
SPAIN
PERFIL PROFESIONAL
PROFESSIONAL/OCCUPATIONAL JOB PROFILE
Description of the characteristics a worker must possess for a particular job (experience, aptitude, attitude to work, leadership or social skills, etc.). It is indispensable for thorough personnel selection and to establish vocational training needs, and may have a bearing on occupational classification and functional mobility .
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Note added at 10 mins (2009-02-02 09:23:07 GMT)
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It seems that the "doble perfil" in this case refers to the ability to conceptualize AND be creative (both important for teaching staff because they're qualities that should be reflected in the programme).
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Note added at 31 mins (2009-02-02 09:44:09 GMT)
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I think the best option for "perfil" in general depends on the particular sentence. "PROFESSIONAL/OCCUPATIONAL JOB PROFILE" could do the job, but there may be other (better) options.
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Note added at 7 hrs (2009-02-02 16:20:42 GMT)
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"A partir d’aquest diploma de postgrau es vol potenciar la formació del perfil del dissenyador de mobles o moblista com un agent amb una actitud i una metodologia diferenciades respecte a d’altres disciplines projectuals"
Can't you just ignore the "perfil" in this case: "...training of furniture designers..."
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Note added at 7 hrs (2009-02-02 16:22:53 GMT)
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Perhaps in mane cases you need to think about the meaning of the sentence as a whole rather than getting fixated on a particular problematic word. In the case of awkward words there's probably not going to be any solution that works in every case.
Note from asker:
| Hi Ross I agree with your last two points - ie that ignoring it is the right thing in some cases and in others, re-working the whole thing. Thank you for your help. |
Discussion
Thanks for your answers.
Given the lack of any one clearly correct answer (at least no one answer is clear to me), I am closing this question without awarding points, rather than picking one that may be wrong and it being logged in the "system"... thanks
When we say, for example, "the profile for this job", we are likely to list things such as personality traits and experience as well as specific training.
For example, this from http://www.careernomics.com/Candidates/HelpProfile.php"... search CVs/résumés using the information collected in the career profiles. Search criteria include: name, work permit, education, work experience and preferences, and language skills."
"A partir d’aquest diploma de postgrau es vol potenciar la formació del perfil del dissenyador de mobles o moblista com un agent amb una actitud i una metodologia diferenciades respecte a d’altres disciplines projectuals"