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Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

in the days before personal stylists

French translation:

À une époque où l'on n'a pas son propre styliste

Added to glossary by Germaine
Apr 10, 2011 20:14
13 yrs ago
English term

in the days before personal stylists

English to French Art/Literary General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters Livre sur la carrière des Rolling Stones
**In the days before personal stylists**, Keith Richards offers some friendly show preparation assistance to his band mate Brian Jones.

How can I translate these few words ?
Thanks a lot for your answer.
Proposed translations (French)
4 +3 À une époque où l'on n'a pas son propre styliste
3 +1 à l'époque où les p.s. n'existaient pas encore
4 Styliste personnel avant la lettre,
Change log

Apr 11, 2011 08:49: Stéphanie Soudais changed "Field (specific)" from "Music" to "General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters"

Apr 12, 2011 14:04: Germaine changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/1364069">MD64 (X)'s</a> old entry - "in the days before personal stylists"" to ""À une époque où l\'on n\'a pas son propre styliste""

Discussion

cc in nyc Apr 11, 2011:
My 2¢ I always ask for photos, when there are captions. Sometimes the focus of the caption needs to be changed slightly as the language changes.
MD64 (X) (asker) Apr 10, 2011:
You're right ! It was just a suggestion, not really what I meant to write.
Tony M Apr 10, 2011:
Thumbs down for your suggestion: "Les jours qui précèdent sa transformation personnelle"

I think that wouldn't represent the source text at all well; usually, "in the days before" doesn't mean 'in the last few days just before something happened', but rather as françoise has said « à l'époque où... »

And also, there's nothing to say that there necessarily was any kind of 'transformation' — the remark is probably slightly ironic, saying "See just how awful he looked in those days, if only personal stylists had existed back then, he could have used one"
MD64 (X) (asker) Apr 10, 2011:
Without any photo it's sometimes rather difficult. I'll ask for them.
Thanks for your help !
Jonathan MacKerron Apr 10, 2011:
they are implying that nowadays no one would look as scruffy as Keith did then, because now stars all have "personal stylists" to adivse them on their image.
kashew Apr 10, 2011:
Why not ask for all the photos? - that's what I would do! The only way to do a good job. I've seen too many captions translated "blind" and ridiculously.
MD64 (X) (asker) Apr 10, 2011:
Yes, it's a caption to a photograph, probably with Richards and Jones. Unfortunately I don't have any photo at my disposal as an aid for translating, only the captions. So I thought to translate in this way : "Les jours qui précèdent sa transformation personnelle", but I'm not sure at all !! Thanks
kashew Apr 10, 2011:
Photo caption? Seems to refer to something in "the photo". Maybe JM's thing about Keef's teeff.
Jonathan MacKerron Apr 10, 2011:
is it a reference to the way Keith Richards used to look in the old days with his bad teeth and all?? If it is a caption to a photograph with him and Brian Jones, then I'm pretty sure that they are referring to Keith's looks, before he got his teeth fixed...

Proposed translations

+3
4 hrs
Selected

À une époque où l'on n'a pas son propre styliste

[À une époque où l'on n'a pas son (propre) styliste] [À une époque où les stylistes n'existent pas], Keith Richards aide amicalement Brian Jones à se préparer...

Je comprends que c'est Keith qui conseille Brian (et non le contraire). Par ailleurs, j'ai l'impression qu'on ne peut pas préciser "personnel" sans créer une certaine redondance.
Note from asker:
Oui, c'est bien Keith qui conseille Brian. C'est aussi ce que je comprends. En effet, "personnel" dans la phrase dérange un peu et le remplacer par "son propre" est selon moi excellent. Merci.
Peer comment(s):
agree Françoise Vogel : ou bien: où l'on n'a pas encore de styliste attitré
6 hrs
agree Sandra Mouton
12 hrs
agree enrico paoletti
16 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Merci !"
+1
51 mins

à l'époque où les p.s. n'existaient pas encore

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Note added at 11 hrs (2011-04-11 07:24:02 GMT)
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je dirais "styliste attitré".

Mode, Rédactrice en chef, Vogue, Américain
Eric Daman, styliste attitré de Blake Lively dans la série Gossip Girl, ne tarit pas d'éloges sur la jeune actrice. ...
recherche.closermag.fr/mode-redactric...

comparee a Jacqueline Onassis...pour son elegance
1 nov. 2010 ... Important à noter que Cheilka Mouza n'a pas de styliste attitré, elle choisit toute seule ses tenues, et le moins qu'on puisse dire c'est ...
www.topnet.tn/index.php?option=co... -

Michelle Obama | Le Vif Weekend
... Si la First Lady américaine donne l'impression de ne pas trop se soucier de son look - on ne lui connaît pas encore de styliste attitré- ...
levifweekend.rnews.be/fr/style-de-vie... -

Maripol était le styliste attitré de Madonna dans sa période Like A Virgin... vous comprendrez mieux l'inspiration ...
www.mysacamain.com/marc+by+marc%2... -
Note from asker:
Qu'est-ce que les "p.s." ? Merci bcp !!
Peer comment(s):
agree Germaine : "styliste attitré". Coule mieux que "propre". Mais je trouve toujours que le mot se suffit à lui-même ;-)
1 day 3 hrs
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12 hrs

Styliste personnel avant la lettre,

Keith Richards aide son ami...

Pour faire court puisque c'est une légende de photo.
Peer comment(s):
neutral Tony M : might work, though if as I suspect the comment is ironical, this would be contrary to that notion.
35 mins
en français aussi c'est ironique. KR n'est pas vraiment "styliste perso", il est probablement juste en train d'arranger la tenue de BJ ou sa coiffure ou autre chose.
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