Glossary entry (derived from question below)
русский term or phrase:
перевести документ на рабочий контроль
английский translation:
monitor the document actively (keep a close watch on it)
Added to glossary by
Laura Friend
Feb 22, 2012 07:04
12 yrs ago
русский term
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Certified translator of RU & FR > EN
Native in: английский 
Works in: русский => английский, французский => английский
перевести документ на рабочий контроль
русский => английский
Бизнес/Финансы
Бизнес / Коммерция (в целом)
Correspondence
It's the last sentence of a formal business letter from one regional government official (in Kazakhstan) to another (his boss) outlining various substantive issues:
"Прошу документ № хх-хххх от хххх года перевести на рабочий контроль до проведения встречи с руководстром компании ННН".
It looks like a set procedure for filing and/or distributing correspondence, but I don't know this phrase.
Thanks in advance for your suggestion.
"Прошу документ № хх-хххх от хххх года перевести на рабочий контроль до проведения встречи с руководстром компании ННН".
It looks like a set procedure for filing and/or distributing correspondence, but I don't know this phrase.
Thanks in advance for your suggestion.
Proposed translations
(английский)
| 4 +2 | ... [pro]active monitoring |
Kiwiland Bear
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| 3 | Place the document under operational control |
Nadezhda Wenzel
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| 3 | see explanation |
Sam Pinson
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Proposed translations
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2 час
Kiwiland Bear
Новая Зеландия
Новая Зеландия
Native in русский
Works in field
Новая Зеландия
Translation with excellence
Native in: русский
Works in: русский => английский, английский => русский, французский => английский, and 3 more.
Related KudoZ points
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28
Selected
... [pro]active monitoring
Put under, set to, assign to - your choice of verb. But I take it, the main issue was "рабочий контроль"?
Peer comment(s):
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The Misha
: Yes, most likely.
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Thank you.
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brown fox (X)
: I would use “routine”, because the other type of monitoring is bu a Big Boss = “личный контроль”. А тут будет контролировать не директор, а кто придется по штатному расписанию.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you, Kiwiland Bear and all for your suggestions and comments. This was really helpful."
41 мин
Nadezhda Wenzel
Native in русский
Specializes in field
Each word needs thorough attention.
Native in: русский
Works in: английский => русский, русский => английский, немецкий => русский, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
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12
Place the document under operational control
Place the document under operational control
6 час
Sam Pinson
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США
Native in английский
Specializes in field
США
ATA and SDL Trados Certified, IT, legal
Native in: английский (Variant: US)
Works in: русский => английский
Related KudoZ points
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70
see explanation
If I'm not mistaken, there is something more to this.
"Рабочий контроль - могильщик частной собственности." (See http://sovrab.ru/content/view/3209/39/) I think "рабочий контроль" refers to ownership or control of capital/factories/land by the people who supply the labor, e.g. the workers.
Could this be a request to reformulate the document so it addresses/targets the "workers' control"? Or a request to send it to the "workers' control" for review/approval/FYI?
If this is the case, I'm not sure what the best translation for "рабочий контроль" would be:
workers' (supervisory/management) board?
"Рабочий контроль - могильщик частной собственности." (See http://sovrab.ru/content/view/3209/39/) I think "рабочий контроль" refers to ownership or control of capital/factories/land by the people who supply the labor, e.g. the workers.
Could this be a request to reformulate the document so it addresses/targets the "workers' control"? Or a request to send it to the "workers' control" for review/approval/FYI?
If this is the case, I'm not sure what the best translation for "рабочий контроль" would be:
workers' (supervisory/management) board?
Reference:
Peer comment(s):
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The Misha
: Yes, yours is a perfectly valid explanation, but more likely than not it does not apply here. What they seem to mean here is that the issue needs to be closely monitored until this or that event. It's just a bureaucratic figure of speech.
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Ah. I see. Thanks.
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Kiwiland Bear
: I agree with The Misha. You version could be valid circa 1920s when that thing existed. Not before and not later. Today, few modern Russian speakers would even know what you are talking about. Much less use it in a business correspondence.
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Thanks!
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Discussion
In fact, it asks for exactly the opposite - do NOT pass it off to somebody, keep it in your personal view. Although "personal" may include your personal aides and such.
What they are asking for is to monitor the progress of the request/issue closely, not put it on the back-burner, keep it a focus of attention.
In other words - actively monitor it and its progress.
I presume you can find other words to that effect too but the ones I used seem the most obvious and natural in the context (at least to me :-)