Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Indonesian term or phrase:
gak ada loe gak rame
English translation:
without you, it ain't fun
Added to glossary by
Catherine Muir
Feb 25, 2013 09:01
11 yrs ago
1 viewer *
Indonesian term
gak ada loe gak rame
Indonesian to English
Other
Idioms / Maxims / Sayings
Jakarta bahasa gaul?
The context is common perceptions of the importance of smoking to men, i.e., manliness, mateship, etc. A comment made by someone interviewed about the role of smoking to gatherings of men.
Change log
Mar 8, 2013 03:51: Catherine Muir Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
1 hr
ErichEko ⟹⭐
Indonesia
Indonesia
Native in Indonesian
Indonesia
Legal, Marketing, Biz, Software, Games
Native in: Indonesian (Variant: Standard-Indonesia) 
Works in: English to Indonesian, Indonesian to English
Related KudoZ points
:
8
Selected
without you, it ain't fun
Sampoerna is very creative in disguising their true message. Once they used How low can you go? to market its low nicotine cigarette. Or, Go Ahead with a stress on the A, to market Sampoerna A product line (=intepretable as Please, go ahead smoking Sampoerna A).
Gak ada loe gak rame is a two-pronged message:
(a) literally, there will be no fun without you;
(b) there will be no fun without smoking [this brand].
It will be hard to find a translation that covers both, IMHO. I don't know if any English speaker will ever interpret you as you and/or smoking this brand like Indonesian may interpret loe as kamu dan/atau rokok merek ini.
To introduce informality, ain't is a good way, I guess. You may even try the double negative version that seems to be very popular in the web (with more than 114k hits):
without you, it ain't no fun
Note from asker:
| Wonderful, Erich! I will have to explain this double meaning in a footnote to the translation. It is very clever advertising. The crux is that smoking is essential to enjoyment of men's get-togethers. |
| Further, it's like Australian men and drinking...it's no fun unless they drink together, too often to excess. |
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Your explanation was most helpful. Thank you, Erich"
38 mins
Rona Desfy P., SS
Indonesia
Indonesia
Native in Indonesian
Indonesia
Certified English-Indonesian Translator
Native in: Indonesian
Works in: English to Indonesian, Indonesian to English
It's not gonna be fun without you
-
Note from asker:
| Thank you, Rona. I see it is a slogan of Sampoerna Hijau. I had no idea. |
3 hrs
Ahmad Ridwan Munib
Indonesia
Indonesia
Native in Indonesian
Indonesia
Freelance Translator
Native in: Indonesian 
, Javanese
Works in: English to Indonesian, Indonesian to English, English to Javanese
not nice without you
"gak ada loe gak rame" means not nice without you. It implies you should be always with us.
+3
5 hrs
Rano Ilyas
Native in Indonesian
Accurate and Reliable
Native in: Indonesian
Works in: English to Indonesian, Indonesian to English
its no fun without you
<>
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Eddie R. Notowidigdo
: This is the most natural suggestion.
5 hrs
|
| agree |
Edward Thornton
: It's
14 hrs
|
| agree |
Sari Gonneau
3 days 4 hrs
|
5 hrs
Ikram Mahyuddin
Indonesia
Indonesia
Native in Indonesian
Indonesia
Your English-Indonesian Translator
Native in: Indonesian
Works in: English to Indonesian, Indonesian to English
it wouldn't be fun without you
imho
Discussion