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Mar 16, 2013 00:39
11 yrs ago
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español term

lo que menos importa

español al inglés Jurídico/Patentes Gobierno / Política
Seems like a strange thing to say in the context, unless it's said with irony, and if so if I say something like "less importantly", is the irony also lost or do I need to add something?

Cuando la institucionalidad se derrumbó, quedo al descubierto la artimaña de los Estados,
“crear impunidad, no combatirla” lo que nos lleva a preguntarnos ¿cuantos casos por
crímenes de odio se han resuelto en nuestros países?, ¿en cuantos países son considerados
como crímenes de odio?, ¿a cuantas legislaciones, decretos o leyes hemos apelado?,
¿Cuántas leyes hemos creado?, ¿Cuánto tiempo se ha perdido?, o lo que menos importa
¿Cuántas vidas hemos perdido?

http://lib.ohchr.org/HRBodies/UPR/Documents/Session9/HN/RLC_...
Proposed translations (inglés)
4 +3 as if it even matters
4 +2 what seems to matter least (of all)
4 +2 last, and apparently least
4 +1 a final small consideration
5 what matters least
4 what’s even less important
4 ...or what seems to be disregarded even further...
4 or, what is less important,
4 what is least important
4 or, least importantly, how many....?
4 not to (even) mention

Discussion

Max Zalewski Mar 18, 2013:
much less I agree with the other options of course, but depending on how you translate the rest of the paragraph, you could use an English phrase at the end to give it more English flavor...

...How much time has been lost? Much less, how many lives have been lost? ...

I think this keeps the irony and still sounds English, though you may not like it stylistically
Sandro Tomasi Mar 17, 2013:
Objectivism/Subjectivism Interesting to see how so many answers can be right. We try to be objective as translators in order to preserve the source-language speaker's/writer's personal style, yet sometimes our own personal influences can influence the shade of the target language.

Proposed translations

+3
6 minutos
Selected

as if it even matters

or like it even matters

To make the irony more evident.
Peer comment(s):
agree David Hollywood : nice y me gusta
50 minutos
Thank you
agree Anthony Ottey
58 minutos
Thank you
agree Yvonne Gallagher : a good equivalent for irony
59 minutos
Thank you
agree Andy Watkinson : Nicely put.
2 horas
Thank you
disagree liz askew : oooh, I think this is too strong here and conveys too much sarcasm/irony; or even disrespect for human life, which is not what this means IMHO, also "like it even matters" is far too colloquial
9 horas
Yea, because hate crimes are SO respectful of human life. Thanks alot LIZ!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
2 horas

what’s even less important

I think that “menos” is part of the person’s irony in that people’s lives are what’s most important.
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2 horas

...or what seems to be disregarded even further...

Es lo que yo usaría en este contexto. Más que irónica, creo que la expresión del autor del texto es de derrota frente a la situación que expone....
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+2
7 horas

what seems to matter least (of all)

Putting "seems" makes the author's disgust evident.

GRIEVANCE RESULTING FROM AN ADMINISTRATIVE DECISION ...
www.pdfio.com › Free
Mar 1, 2013
As the 2010 Appeals Panel Decision notes, the home and away scheduling model has been
promised since 2008/2009. It is now 2011 and we are no closer to a resolution of this matter
than we were three years ago. WDDOA, CAYSA and now, sadly, AAYSA have coerced
STYSA’s EC into abdicating its responsibility to the rest of the District. The playing rules don’t
matter. Constitutions don’t matter. By Laws don’t matter. Grievances and Appeals don’t
matter. ***What seems to matter least of all*** is any concept of fairness or equality of opportunity.
http://www.pdfio.com/k-3112769.html
Peer comment(s):
agree liz askew
2 horas
Thanks, Liz. Buen finde!
agree Wendy Streitparth
2 horas
Thanks, Wendy. Have a great wknd!
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7 horas

or, what is less important,

I think we shouldnt overinterpret the author by underlining what is OUR opinion. without any seems, even and such like. the phrase is very clear and needs no .......
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9 horas

what is least important

,

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Note added at 9 hrs (2013-03-16 10:20:24 GMT)
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or

what matters even less
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+1
12 horas

a final small consideration

I think you need to do something like that to get the tone in English.
Peer comment(s):
agree Charles Davis : I have just tried saying all the answers to myself, and this is the one for me. I don't know whether it's a particularly British way of putting it, but the tone seems just right.
4 horas
Thanks very much, Charles
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15 horas

what matters least

Ya
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20 horas

or, least importantly, how many....?

Not very different from a couple of other suggestions. I just wanted to agree with Ellen that there is no need to interpret and mold the sentence in order to make the assumed irony clear. If the original writer had wanted to make the irony clear in Spanish they could have done so very easily. The ambiguity exists in the original and should be maintained in the translation.
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+2
17 horas
español term (edited): lo que menos importa

last, and apparently least

This play on "last but not least" may be worth considering.

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Note added at 1 day21 hrs (2013-03-17 22:30:38 GMT)
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I reckon the "last/least" thing conveys the irony rather better than the Spanish, actually. But I do beleive this was the intended message.
Example sentence:

…o lo que menos importa, ¿Cuántas vidas hemos perdido?

...and last, and apparently least: How many lives have we lost?

Reference:

http://tinyurl.com/cap5kwv

Peer comment(s):
agree Cinnamon Nolan : Oh, I like this!
5 horas
Cheers, Cinnamon! :)
agree Charles Davis : Very nice: deserves an agree!
22 horas
Thank you kindly, sir ;-)
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2 días 9 horas

not to (even) mention

Late, but a thought!
www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/society/FilmSoc/ -
... learning how to organise film screenings and collaborations with other societies and cinemas and not to even mention helping develop the programme for the ...
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mention -
not to mention. : not even yet counting or considering : and notably in addition <a proposal that's risky and expensive, not to mention unethical> ...
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