Apr 29, 2014 13:28
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English term

In September 2013 -- with or without comma

Non-PRO English Other General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters basic grammar/punctuation: commas after date at the beginnng of a sentence
Sometimes we need to put a date, a month or a year at the beginning of a sentence, especiqally when describing some events in chronological order.

For instance,

In September 2013, a OSCE mission was sent to N.

In 1994, a new programme was launched for M.

I have put commas, and is it all right?

There is some evidence that it isn't:

"In the year of '39 assembled here the volunteers..."

But it's not an 'official' text.
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Apr 29, 2014 17:09: writeaway changed "Field (specific)" from "Other" to "General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters" , "Field (write-in)" from "commas after date at the beginnng of a sentence" to "basic grammar/punctuation: commas after date at the beginnng of a sentence"

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PRO (1): Charlesp

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Discussion

AllegroTrans Apr 30, 2014:
Good point about songs n pomes BD its about getting the metre/rhythm right
"In eighteen hundred and fifty one, me corduroy breeches Oi-oi put on, to work upon the railway, the rai-el-way...and so forth"
Sterk (asker) Apr 29, 2014:
@ Tina Yes, thank you. I was just making up examples 'on the fly', without paying much attention to details
B D Finch Apr 29, 2014:
Different rules ... ... apply to songs and poetry!
("In the year of '39 assembled here the volunteers...")
Tina Vonhof (X) Apr 29, 2014:
Generally, when the next word (or acronym in this case) starts with a vowel, you say 'an' OSCE.

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English term (edited): In September 2013, -- with or without comma
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Generally without

I would say that modern style tends to omit it — one of the publishers I work for in their style guide says to omit the comma for dates (and other opening subordinate clauses in general) if they containing less than about 5 words.

In the particular example you cite, there is a different reason: in that instance, the date is in fact a part of the MAIN clause (i.e. it's not subordinate at all), and hence it would have been wrong to put a comma.

Personally, I let myself be guided by the sense — if it feels as if it needs a little break as you read it, I'll put in a comma even though it may not be strictly correct style.

Beware, too, of the case, where the comma is in fact needed because of a FOLLOWING subordinate clause:

"In 2012, even though he'd said he wouldn't, he sold the company..."

Peer comment(s):

agree Ashutosh Mitra
6 mins
Thanks, Ashutosh!
agree Tina Vonhof (X)
36 mins
Dank u, Tina!
agree B D Finch
55 mins
Thanks, B! :-)
agree Polangmar
4 hrs
Thanks, Polangmar!
agree Jean-Claude Gouin
12 hrs
Merci, J-C ! :-)
agree AllegroTrans
23 hrs
Thanks, C!
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7 mins

Both are fine (but)

In standard writing both are commonly used. In a list of events, however, a comma is typically inserted:

William the Conquerer - timeline
In 1028, William the Conqurer was born.
In 1066, he invaded England.
In 1072, he went to the moon with the pope.

Peer comment(s):

agree Ashutosh Mitra
8 mins
agree Tina Vonhof (X)
38 mins
agree writeaway
3 hrs
agree acetran
4 hrs
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21 hrs

generally with

So yes, you are right!

When dates appear at the beginning of a sentence, they are followed by a comma before the main text of the sentence. (There is a grammar rule about this).
Peer comment(s):

neutral Cilian O'Tuama : and where can one find this "grammar rule"?
16 hrs
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