Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

de que suerte

English translation:

in what manner

Added to glossary by TravellingTrans
Dec 4, 2014 20:22
9 yrs ago
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Spanish term

de que suerte

Spanish to English Other General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters
I am trying to translate a Mexican villancico from the 17th century.

The lyrics are:
HERMOSO AMOR
Hermoso amor que forxas tus flechas de las paxas
Temblando a mis rigores ardiendo te a tus ancias.

De que suerte zeñido [ceñido]
Podras vibrar las jareas
Si te_apriçiona_el yelo y te nieua la escarcha.

Si no es que dan tus ojos Rayos que soles fraguan
Quando te ven qual niño con las manos faxadas.
Mas ay que disparas suspiros ardientes que el pecho me abrasan
y con lagrimas tiernas Rindes las almas.

Yngenioso artificio tuuo tu idea rara en humanas finezas
Por Redimir desgracias.
Change log

Dec 9, 2014 15:25: TravellingTrans changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/16443">Jeanne Zang's</a> old entry - "de que suerte"" to ""in what manner""

Discussion

Charles Davis Dec 5, 2014:
It's standard seventeenth-century Spanish for "de qué manera". The meaning "luck" or "fortune" is not involved at all.
Helena Chavarria Dec 4, 2014:
My Spanish husband thinks it means 'to what advantage'.

Proposed translations

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in what manner

this is perhaps a bit of a cheat but this lyric is translated on this early music site:

De que suerte zeñido In what manner will you, held fast,.
Podras vibrar las jaras be able to let fly your arrows.
si te apriçiona el yelo if ice holds

www.houstonearlymusic.org/archives/776

I don't know that it is 100% correct but you can check it out
Note from asker:
I am aware of this site, and I am reworking this translation because it has some obvious errors.
Peer comment(s):

agree Jaime Blank : ( How )
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agree María Florencia Fernández : "de suerte que" = "de manera que", so I think you're right.
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agree Charles Davis : Yes, "suerte" means "manera". The translation in context will be simply "How?"
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agree neilmac : = How (will you be able to)
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agree Phoenix III
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so that

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thus

Suerte (valga la redundancia).
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Reference comments

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Reference:

de que suerte

Diccionario esencial, Real academia española

SUERTE
... || 8. Manera o modo de hacer algo. ¿De qué suerte haces la elección? || ...
Example sentence:

¿De qué suerte haces la elección?

Peer comments on this reference comment:

neutral Phoenix III : ?
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