Glossary entry (derived from question below)
español term or phrase:
\"tirar la moneda de su suerte a nuestro lado”.
inglés translation:
\"toss the lucky coin over to our side\" (share their fate with us)
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Mónica Algazi
Jun 4, 2015 11:46
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español term
tirar la moneda de su suerte a nuestro lado”.
español al inglés
Arte/Literatura
Poesía y literatura
Artículo periodístico sobre danza moderna
Imposible que un cuerpo humano se muestre desnudo totalmente. Aun en la ausencia de ropas, incluso sin vestigio de maquillaje o afeites especiales, el cuerpo de él, de ella, de aquello, de nosotros, está impregnado de imágenes latentes, entrañables imágenes que hemos elegido y que nos han decidido para – Lezama Lima dixit – * “tirar la moneda de su suerte a nuestro lado” *.
Esto es lo que se baila en Dance, Dance, Dance (2013), una puesta en escena de Magdalena Leite y Aníbal Conde: la presencia del cuerpo como un palimpsesto de escrituras visuales.
Nota: las comillas aparecen en el texto original, ya que se trata de una cita de un poeta cubano.
Desde ya, muchas gracias.
Esto es lo que se baila en Dance, Dance, Dance (2013), una puesta en escena de Magdalena Leite y Aníbal Conde: la presencia del cuerpo como un palimpsesto de escrituras visuales.
Nota: las comillas aparecen en el texto original, ya que se trata de una cita de un poeta cubano.
Desde ya, muchas gracias.
Proposed translations
(inglés)
| 4 +1 | toss the lucky coin over to our side |
neilmac
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| 3 | sharing their fate with us |
Amanda Bouillet
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| 1 | go play their luck out by our sides |
Sophie Cherel
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Proposed translations
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4 horas
Selected
toss the lucky coin over to our side
Literally.
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Note added at 4 hrs (2015-06-04 16:07:09 GMT)
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To me, it sounds as meaningful as the rest of the excerpt. Rather you than me on this translation. There's probably quite a few places where "author thought it would sound sophisticated" will jump up and bite you on the proverbial.
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Note added at 4 hrs (2015-06-04 16:10:30 GMT)
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It looks as though the text will be a hot candidate for Pseuds' Corner. I had to laugh at "un palimpsesto de escrituras visuales", it reminds me of Hancock's arty-farty photographer in this classic sketch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHijvPFMdlg
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Note added at 20 hrs (2015-06-05 08:09:11 GMT)
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NB: However, I REALLY LIKE Billh's proposal of " throwing their lot in with ours"; it's elegant and classic.
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Note added at 4 hrs (2015-06-04 16:07:09 GMT)
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To me, it sounds as meaningful as the rest of the excerpt. Rather you than me on this translation. There's probably quite a few places where "author thought it would sound sophisticated" will jump up and bite you on the proverbial.
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Note added at 4 hrs (2015-06-04 16:10:30 GMT)
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It looks as though the text will be a hot candidate for Pseuds' Corner. I had to laugh at "un palimpsesto de escrituras visuales", it reminds me of Hancock's arty-farty photographer in this classic sketch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHijvPFMdlg
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Note added at 20 hrs (2015-06-05 08:09:11 GMT)
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NB: However, I REALLY LIKE Billh's proposal of " throwing their lot in with ours"; it's elegant and classic.
Note from asker:
| A hot candidate indeed! : ( Thanks, Neil. : ) |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Helena Chavarria
: Yes, one of those phrases that I would have translated literally probably without giving it a second thought! // Yes, Bill's suggestion is also good.
3 horas
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I like "throwing their lot in with ours' for this now...
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you, Neil!"
8 horas
Sophie Cherel
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go play their luck out by our sides
In Lima's poem, the line before the one I quoted in the discussion reads:
"Jugamos a cientos de espejos, de gustos distintos, en las personas que guardamos y que nos han decidido la mas valioso de este frío planeta; la compañia."
I initally interpreted 'tirar....lado' as meaning something along the lines of images that have convinced us to 'place our bets' in a certain direction,m but I think that, as Billh says, 'throwing their lot in with ours' is closer to the meaning. The 'nos han decidido' in Lima's words, repeated in the source text, must be a reference to Lima's words, which are about companionship, about mirrors, so about the way we see ourselves in the eyes of others, therefore about our image.
So the text would mean that the images our body may reveal (latente) are reflections of what we aspire to, our dreams - the people we may have been aren't (yet!?) - who are ever-present, and 'play their luck out by our sides'.
Anyone convinced?
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"Jugamos a cientos de espejos, de gustos distintos, en las personas que guardamos y que nos han decidido la mas valioso de este frío planeta; la compañia."
I initally interpreted 'tirar....lado' as meaning something along the lines of images that have convinced us to 'place our bets' in a certain direction,m but I think that, as Billh says, 'throwing their lot in with ours' is closer to the meaning. The 'nos han decidido' in Lima's words, repeated in the source text, must be a reference to Lima's words, which are about companionship, about mirrors, so about the way we see ourselves in the eyes of others, therefore about our image.
So the text would mean that the images our body may reveal (latente) are reflections of what we aspire to, our dreams - the people we may have been aren't (yet!?) - who are ever-present, and 'play their luck out by our sides'.
Anyone convinced?
....
Note from asker:
| Thank you, Sophie! |
1 día 1 hora
español term (edited):
tirar la moneda de su suerte a nuestro lado
sharing their fate with us
It is a line from a poem by Lezama Lima
..."Pues vivir es hacerse acompañar, escoger el oscuro pajar, las otras vidas que nos complementan y van también tirando la moneda de su suerte de nuestro lado..."
..."Pues vivir es hacerse acompañar, escoger el oscuro pajar, las otras vidas que nos complementan y van también tirando la moneda de su suerte de nuestro lado..."
Note from asker:
| Muy buena referencia. Muchas gracias, Amanda. |
Discussion
Thank you all!
just thinking out loud......
'Pues vivir es hacerse acompañar, escoger el oscuro pajar, las otras vidas que nos complementan y van tambien tirando la moneda de su suerte de nuestro lado'
https://books.google.es/books?id=mgXy9GBOTz4C&pg=PA21&lpg=PA...
http://dancedco.blogspot.com.es/2015/05/a-primera-vista.html
But the thought occurs
"throw their luck/fortune money our way"
But if Silvio Rodriguez is anything to go by Cuban poets can be somewhat obscure.....