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Glossary entry

Romanian term or phrase:

Ofisul Domnului

English translation:

(by) Princely Decree

Added to glossary by Marcella Magda
Jan 19, 2016 14:51
8 yrs ago
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Romanian term

Ofisul Domnului

Romanian to English Other History
Domnitorul Alexandru Ghica urmărea cu interes modul în care erau îndeplinite de către Mitropolie obligaţiile prevăzute în actul domnesc din 21 aprilie 1834, care menţiona înfiinţarea de seminarii la Bucureşti, Buzău, Râmnicu Vâlcea şi Curtea de Argeş.

În data de 16 noiembrie 1834, Marele Logofăt al Treburilor bisericeşti depune Adunării obşteşti raportul său, împreună cu *** Ofisul Domnului***, spre a fi cercetat şi avizat.

Mulţumesc!
Proposed translations (English)
3 +1 (by) Imperial Decree
References
ÓFIS - DEX
Change log

Jan 23, 2016 12:21: Marcella Magda Created KOG entry

Discussion

Sandra & Kenneth Grossman Jan 22, 2016:
Dictionarist translations may be simply wrong Each term pertains to its own context. Whatever the dictionary says about all the possible meanings of the term, I shudder to think of translations made based on dictionary justifications. Imperial in this context is wrong. Imperial may also denote arrogance.
Lara Barnett Jan 21, 2016:
@ Sandra & Kenneth I hear what you are saying, but not so "funny in its grandiloquence" when you consider the fact that the term "imperial decree" is not solely limited to describe decrees issued from an "empire".

"IMPERIAL DECREE"
Meaning:
A decree issued by a sovereign ruler
http://www.audioenglish.org/dictionary/imperial_decree.htm
Sandra & Kenneth Grossman Jan 21, 2016:
@ Lara The use of "imperial" with reference to a Romanian principality is simply wrong (and funny in its grandiloquence).
Lara Barnett Jan 20, 2016:
@ Adami The use of "imperial" in English is not limited only to the description of "empires". You will see more info on this in the third definition listed in this dictionary entry:

"Characterizing the rule or authority of a sovereign state over its dependencies."
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/imperial?s=t

Proposed translations

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(by) Imperial Decree

Could this be the correct term?

"A decree issued by a sovereign ruler"
https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/imperial decree



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Note added at 1 hr (2016-01-19 16:16:41 GMT)
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" In 1795, BY IMPERIAL DECREE, Masonic activity was outlawed in the Habsburg empire, including Transylvania. In Wallachia, the first lodge was very likely established by Jean Louis Carra, secretary to voivode Grigore III Ghica (October 1768-November 1769)."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry_in_Romania




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Note added at 18 hrs (2016-01-20 09:02:57 GMT)
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In English this term has a looser meaning than that of a decree issued from only an "empire" or on an empirical level.

"IMPERIAL DECREE"
Meaning:
A decree issued by a sovereign ruler
http://www.audioenglish.org/dictionary/imperial_decree.htm

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Note added at 18 hrs (2016-01-20 09:03:34 GMT)
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i.e. Can relate to decrees issued by ANY sovereign ruler.
Example sentence:

"Imperial Decree of declaration of war against foreign powers"

"After Herod's death his palace there was given to his sister Salome BY IMPERIAL DECREE (War 2:98)."

Reference:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Decree_of_declaration_of_war_against_foreign_powers

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=m3Yy9FDcT8gC&pg=PT276&lpg=PT276&dq=%22by+imperial+decree%22+war&source=bl&ots=Hv7AZt1KL5&sig=ILe1Nvvy1Ti

Peer comment(s):
agree adami : Princely decree (Wallachia was a Principality/voivodeship).//Does not apply in the historical context. In that age and context, ”Imperial” would have referred to one thing only, the Austro-Hungarian Empire (which Wallachia was not part of).
23 mins
Yes, possibly, but "imperial decree" would still be understood as coming from a sovereign family./// Not in UK English - See my discussion box entry.
agree RODICA CIOBANU : agree on adami comment
31 mins
As above.
disagree Sandra & Kenneth Grossman : Royal Decree//vezi referinta DEX
1 day 16 hrs
But where are links to show this term in use?// I meant links showing native use of the term.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Vă mulţumesc tuturor! Pentru contextul meu am să folosesc "Princely Decree". "

Reference comments

1 day 18 hrs
Reference:

ÓFIS - DEX

ÓFIS, ofisuri, s. n. (Învechit și arhaizant) Decizie, decret domnesc. O colecție a ofisurilor sale din ramul judecătoresc. KOGĂLNICEANU, S. 204. Ș-un ofis redijat bine e o lege-n prescurtare. ALEXANDRESCU, P. 158. – Variantă: ofísus s. n.
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