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Sep 12, 2016 20:22
7 yrs ago
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Spanish term

frutas rojas

Spanish to English Marketing Agriculture Fruit and vegetables
SPAIN. Literally "red fruits", but I'm wondering if a better translation would be "forest fruits", or are they not the same thing? The three items mentioned are raspberry, blueberry (or cranberry, I never know which 'arándano' is which) and blackberry, which I consider forest fruits, but perhaps that's just me...

"[Company X ] está trabajando en el desarrollo de nuevas variedades de frutos rojos que permita posicionarse ... ofreciéndoles fruta de máxima calidad y sabor durante todo el año, como ya hacen con la frambuesa.
Frambuesa solo representa el 15%, .... Arándano, que hoy representa el 16% de la producción se va a incrementar también ... Mora es un nicho pequeño que crece de forma significativa:"
Proposed translations (English)
4 +1 fruits of the forest
4 +6 berries
3 +5 berry fruits
4 +3 red berries fruit
5 +1 red fruits

Discussion

Eileen Brophy Sep 14, 2016:
Fruit not fruits We never use Fruits in English, we use fruit as fruit is an uncountable noun. We can talk about berries, apples, pears, etc, but fruit is the group name and consequently is NEVER plural in English.
neilmac (asker) Sep 14, 2016:
NB: I'm not entering this in the glossary, because it's "frutas del bosque". One of the other solutions offered might be a better option for "frutas rojas", depending on the context. In my case, the text had already severely overdosed on "berry/berries" and I needed another option to break the monotony.

Proposed translations

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1 day 11 hrs
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fruits of the forest

This is the term used to market the mix of these fruits in the English-language market.

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Note added at 1 day11 hrs (2016-09-14 08:06:51 GMT)
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In fact none of these fruits grown commercially are grown in forests. The forest is, however, the origin of such fruits. As with 'savannah plants' they are still from the savannah even when grown in your garden.
Note from asker:
I used "soft fruit/s" in the end just for variation, but "forest fruits" was my first idea and this reaffirms it!
Peer comment(s):
agree Eileen Brophy : We do not use fruits in English we use fruit without the "s" as fruit is an uncountable noun
6 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "In the end I used "soft fruit" (can't recall if in singular or plural) for the sake of variety, to avoid repetition of "berry/berries" plaguing the text. Thanks to everyone for chipping in on this one :-)"
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14 mins

berry fruits

I would say "berry fruits" because these fruits don't necessarily grow in the forest, nor are they all red. I agree, unless you have context it is hard to know whether arandano means cranberry or blueberry (botanically they are closely related but are used quite differently as foods). Raspberries and blackberries are technically drupe fruits (a drupe is a cluster of individual berries) but horticulturally are referred to as berry fruits. "Small fruits" (as opposed to orchard or tree fruits like apples, peaches, etc.) would be another option.
Note from asker:
The problem is that they already use "berry/berries" as a general term. But here they appear to distinguish the red fruits....
Peer comment(s):
agree Muriel Vasconcellos
3 mins
agree Charles Davis
20 mins
agree Rachel Fell : red berries?
47 mins
agree franglish
10 hrs
neutral philgoddard : This sounds like a tautology - a berry is a fruit.
12 hrs
True, but there is a difference between horticultural and botanical terminology, even though both fields are plant sciences. But as I also suggested, "small fruits" would be another option.
agree Yvonne Gallagher : or soft fruit
1 day 14 hrs
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13 mins

red berries fruit

but if blueberries are included, as you mention, it should read "red and blue berries fruit

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Note added at 18 Min. (2016-09-12 20:40:54 GMT)
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Note added at 20 Min. (2016-09-12 20:42:09 GMT)
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in many links the said berries are also referred to as " red berry fruits "
Peer comment(s):
agree Eileen Brophy : Red berries (without fruits)
3 hrs
Thank you, Eileen !
agree Elizabeth Slaney : Yes, red berries. Word fruit is redundant here.
15 hrs
Thank you, Liz!
agree Christian [email protected] : Same as above.
21 hrs
Thank you, Christian !
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22 mins

berries

no need to specify the color
Reference:

http://www.webconsultas.com/dieta-y-nutricion/dieta-equilibrada/frutos-rojos-color-sabor-y-salud-en-tu-mesa-8288

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berry

Note from asker:
The problem is, that this client's texts already refer to "berries" all over the place. If I use it to translate "frutas rojas", it might as well just read "berries, berries, berries, berries, berries" ad infinitum :-)
Peer comment(s):
agree Mary Gardner Hume : I understand Jon's point about arandanos, but in this case it definitely refers to blueberries. Cranberries are practically unknown in Latin America. I would definitely go with berries, since it includes all of the varieties mentioned in the source.
16 mins
agree Ana Vozone
30 mins
agree patinba
1 hr
agree eski : Excellent reference! :)
2 hrs
neutral Charles Davis : Berries is a much broader term than frutos rojos. Not all of them are edible. As John says, the horticultural term is berry fruits, and that's the one to use here. (Or soft fruit in the UK.)
2 hrs
neutral Eileen Brophy : Why not use soft fruit as Charles Davis suggests?
3 hrs
agree philgoddard
11 hrs
agree Catalina Connon
22 hrs
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+1
13 hrs

red fruits

Not only berry.You have tomato;prickly pear;raspberry:acerola;apple etc all classified as red fruits

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Note added at 19 horas (2016-09-13 15:34:28 GMT)
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Ball in your court neilmac!Cheers!!
Note from asker:
I might end up using this. PS I hate prickly pears - I picked some the other day and the bristles went right through my leather gloves and into my fingers...
Peer comment(s):
agree Eileen Brophy : I would use fruit not fruits as fruit is a singular noun
10 hrs
Should be fruits Eileen.All red.Pomegranate;red beets;red onion;red grades;cherries;rhubarh;water melon etc . all listed as red fruits and vegetables.Cheers!
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