Nov 21, 2016 17:32
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German term

Tromben (der Kuppeldecke)

German to English Art/Literary Architecture 18th century architecture
Die vier durch Erdmannsdorff komponierten und 1773 vom Berliner Maler Johann Fischer ausgeführten Fresken in den Tromben der Kuppeldecke stärken diese Deutung.

Just to be clear, I don't mean the modern passive solar building design called a "trombe wall". An element associated with domes and vaulting, possibly trumpet-shaped?
Proposed translations (English)
4 +2 squinch

Discussion

BrigitteHilgner Nov 22, 2016:
Misspelling I agree with Phil Goddard.
"Trompe (von frz. >Jagdhorn<). Bogen mit nischenartiger Wölbung zwischen 2 rechtwinklig zusammenstoßenden Mauern. Die Trompe dient bei Türmen und Kuppeln zur Überleitung des quadratischen Grundrisses ins Oktogon."
Reclam, Kleines Wörterbuch der Architektur, page 133
Ellen Kraus Nov 21, 2016:
see also www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/PlainTextHistories.asp?history...






Both the squinch, developed in about the 5th century AD in the Persian empire, and the pendentive, possibly deriving from Syria, are ways of resting a dome
philgoddard Nov 21, 2016:
Except German uses "Pendentif", though I'm not saying Tromben doesn't have the same meaning:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pendentif
Ellen Kraus Nov 21, 2016:
I tried to find examples for pendentives following which I tend to believe that Alison´s supposition is correct:
see: The Patriarchate of Pec - The Church of the Apostoles
https://www.rastko.rs/kosovo/.../crkva_sv_apostola_eng.html
low dome above the nave is supported by spherical triangles (pendentives). ... The apparently simple subject-matter of the
Eleanore Strauss Nov 21, 2016:
as far as I know from my art history background, pendentives are used to support or (as per this explanation) fill out a cupola
Alison Kirkland (asker) Nov 21, 2016:
pendentives Via "cupola su trombe" (in Italian), I have been led to the word "pendentives"
See below:
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/italian_to_english/architecture/16...
I would be grateful if an answerer (with Italian skills as well as historic architecture knowledge?) could let me know what they think of "pendentives" as a translation. Cheers!

Proposed translations

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German term (edited): Trombe
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squinch

I think Tromben is a typo or variant spelling of Trompen.

Eine Trompe (englisch: squinch; spanisch: trompa) ist ein eckständiger nischenförmiger Gewölbezwickel mit nach unten gekehrter Öffnung

Peer comment(s):

agree Eleanore Strauss : I saw the term in a bit of research, but this is not a commonly used term
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agree BrigitteHilgner
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