Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

bikarpe Knäuel

English translation:

bigerm seed balls

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Oct 25, 2019 07:56
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German term

bikarpe Knäuel

German to English Science Agriculture Sugarbeet seed
I'm sorry, I have little or no context.
Die angelieferte Ausgangsware entsprach nicht den vereinbarten Kriterien. Es gab zu viel bikarpe Knäuel und Verunreinigungen.

Discussion

Björn Vrooman Oct 31, 2019:
OK First off, here is the Oxford dictionary on multigerm:
"Designating or relating to varieties of sugar beet in which each seed ball contains several fruits and so gives rise to several seedlings."
https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/multigerm

Thus, I think seed ball is fine (as long as it's multigerm, of course).

Second, the "Dictionary of Plant Breeding" by Rolf H.J. Schlegel apparently includes "bigerm" (as in having two seeds). It is also mentioned there that sugar beet typically has one ovule--in contrast to a multigerm (aggregate) fruit.

Third, "Root and Tuber Crops" by J.E. Bradshaw contains this sentence about processing sugar beet:
"In fact, the complete removal of bigerm seeds was difficult when using the gravity separators widely used during seed processing."

A few lines above that sentence, it says that since "hand thinning was very expensive, mechanically processing multigerm glomerules into single seeds was used."

If I understand the following correctly, monogerm doesn't require thinning, so it could be preferable:
https://hosstools.com/monogram-vs-multigerm-beet-seeds

Hope the above is of some use.

Best wishes
Björn Vrooman Oct 29, 2019:
@Alexandra and Gordon Please see p. 517 of "Anleitung zu Untersuchungen in der Zuckerindustrie" by Oskar Spengler. Example sentence: "Nach den deutschen Normen zählen zu den Verunreinigungen auch die durch das 2-mm-Schlitzsieb fallenden Knäuel."

It also says, "Die Merzahl aller Knäuel - Rübensamen oder Rübenkerne genannt - enthalten drei solcher Einzelfrüchte..."

Another reference: "Die kleinen unscheinbaren Blüten stehen meist zu 2 bis 4 Blüten zusammen, die ein von den miteinander verwachsenen Perigonblättern umhülltes Samenknäuel bilden (Polykarpie)."
https://www.proplanta.de/Zuckerruebe/Biologie-Zuckerruebe_Pf...

If you compare the German and English Wiki pages:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rüben
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_vulgaris

...Knäuel seems to be called glomerule?

Also, "The Sugar Beet Crop" by D.A. Cooke and J.E. Scott gives "bigerm" as a possible translation of "bikarp" (+ cluster). What do you think?

Interesting topic.

Best
Alexandra Hirsch (X) Oct 25, 2019:
utricle perhaps Botany
Most plants in the Chenopodiaceae family have small single flowers and plants are bisexual or unisexual, sometimes dioecious. In some cases two or more flowers grow together in a dense cluster and form a multiple fruit called a utricle that contains multiple embryos. With beets, the calyx continues to grow after flowering, becomes corky and completely covers the seeds. The utricle is the propagule planted to grow beets and chard. [https://www.hort.vt.edu/Welbaum/seedproduction/beets.html]
Gordon Matthews Oct 25, 2019:
Knäuel I imagine a "Knäuel" to be a knot or clump rather than a cluster, especially if we are talking about sugar beet seeds. I think we need a botanist to answer this one.

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bigerm seed balls

"bigerm" seems to be in common use with reference to sugar beet seed balls and is more readily understandable than "bicarpal". Whatever the technical term might be ("utricle" or "glomerule"?), they seem to be referred to as "seed balls" in the relevant literature. The flowers are in clusters, whereas the seeds (or "germs") are in seed balls usually containing 2-4 seeds/germs. I think it is important to specify "seed balls" rather than just "balls". Thanks to Alexandra and Björn for leading me to this conclusion (see discussion).
Example sentence:

A positive relation was found between the presence of bigerm seed balls in individually selected seed beets

However, in practice, the seed obtained always contains a certain proportion of bigerm seed balls which cannot be adequately separated using conventional methods.

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agree Björn Vrooman : That should do it. Or maybe just bigerm seeds. I'll post a few more references later.
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bicarpal balls

The delivered raw material did not meet the agreed criteria. There were too many bicarpal balls and impurities.
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neutral Gordon Matthews : Having read Alexandra Hirsch's helpful discussion entry, I would go for either "clusters" or "utricles", rather than "balls", in spite of what I said about "clusters" in my discussion entry.
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bicarpellate capsules

Just a guess.
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bicarpal clusters

Presumably substandard for seeding purposes.
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