Apr 16, 2020 08:38
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English term
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not liable for payment in respect of or completion of tenancies
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hola, buenos días:
os dejo el contexto:
xxxx is not liable for payment in respect of or completion of tenancies if there is no access to the holiday home due to other unusual/extraordinary events or circumstances, e.g. flooding, snow, forest fire, landslide or the like, regardless of whether the unusu-al/extraordinary events or circumstances were foreseeable at the time the agreement for holi-day home intermediary services or a tenancy was entered into and even if these conditions cannot be characterised as force majeure.
entiendo las palabras pero no el sentido.
muchas gracias
os dejo el contexto:
xxxx is not liable for payment in respect of or completion of tenancies if there is no access to the holiday home due to other unusual/extraordinary events or circumstances, e.g. flooding, snow, forest fire, landslide or the like, regardless of whether the unusu-al/extraordinary events or circumstances were foreseeable at the time the agreement for holi-day home intermediary services or a tenancy was entered into and even if these conditions cannot be characterised as force majeure.
entiendo las palabras pero no el sentido.
muchas gracias
Proposed translations
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Adrian MM.
Austria
Austria
Native in English
Austria
Retd.T&I, Barrister & Austro-Advokat
Native in: English (Variants: British, Scottish)
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish, French to English, and 5 more.
Related KudoZ points
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8
English term (edited):
not liable for - payment in respect of or - completion of tenancies
Selected
responsabilizarse del pago de alquiler o de formalización del contrato de arrendamiento corresp.
Not very well legally drafted in 'English': at our Madrid law office/ bufete de abogados 'in respect of' used to be our default translation for the preposition of
'por'. plus completion is highly ambiguous (see the first weblink), meaning either conveyancing-like contract completion - elevar a escritura/ formalización (quere: regularizacación) - or determination, so end of the letting.
[...] de depositar su Saldo con el proveedor bancario
autorizado y no debe responsabilizarse del pago de su Saldo bajo demanda.
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[...] your Balance with the authorized dealer bank and shall not
be liable to you for the payment of your Balance upon demand.
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Note added at 5 heures (2020-04-16 13:57:44 GMT)
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Yes, because 1. even substandard drafters of legal English would tend to use de/termination for the end of a tenancy and 2. the 'canon of construction' in ENG interpretation of docs. & deeds, namely of noscitur a sociis = 'know a word(s) by the company it keeps' suggests that what is being referred to here is a beginning (AmE: closing = making as masked by the other ambiguous of conclusion of the contract) and not the end of the letting being frustrated (hecho imposible) > *if there is no access to the holiday home...*
'por'. plus completion is highly ambiguous (see the first weblink), meaning either conveyancing-like contract completion - elevar a escritura/ formalización (quere: regularizacación) - or determination, so end of the letting.
[...] de depositar su Saldo con el proveedor bancario
autorizado y no debe responsabilizarse del pago de su Saldo bajo demanda.
cms.paypal.com
[...] your Balance with the authorized dealer bank and shall not
be liable to you for the payment of your Balance upon demand.
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Note added at 5 heures (2020-04-16 13:57:44 GMT)
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Yes, because 1. even substandard drafters of legal English would tend to use de/termination for the end of a tenancy and 2. the 'canon of construction' in ENG interpretation of docs. & deeds, namely of noscitur a sociis = 'know a word(s) by the company it keeps' suggests that what is being referred to here is a beginning (AmE: closing = making as masked by the other ambiguous of conclusion of the contract) and not the end of the letting being frustrated (hecho imposible) > *if there is no access to the holiday home...*
Reference:
http://eng.proz.com/kudoz/english-to-spanish/law-contracts/6228089-completion-of-an-agreement.html
http://www.bourgeoisfincas.com/lau/formalizacion-del-contrato-de-alquiler-o-arrendamiento/
Note from asker:
| So you think it means formalización and not finalización? |
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Muchas gracias"
9 hrs
Marta Moreno Lobera
Spain
Spain
Native in Spanish
Works in field
Spain
Sworn/Legal/Business, +20yrs, APTIJ
Native in: Spanish 
Works in: English to Spanish
Related KudoZ points
:
115
no será responsable de pagar el alquiler ni de cumplir el periodo de arrendamiento/el arrendamiento
Traducción:
"no será responsable de pagar el alquiler ni de cumplir [todo] el periodo de arrendamiento/de cumplir el arrendamiento en caso de que no pueda acceder a la vivienda vacacional a causa de hechos inusuales/extraordinarios... sin importar o no si tales hechos pudieron anticiparse en el momento en que se formalizó/se celebró el o ... el contrato de arrendamiento"
Explicación:
Considero que la acepción de "completion of tenancy" se refiere en este caso al cumplimiento del [acuerdo de] arrendamiento, pues posteriormente en la misma frase se dice que ya se formalizó o se celebró dicho contrato: "at the time the agreement for holiday home intermediary services ***or a tenancy was entered into***".
"no será responsable de pagar el alquiler ni de cumplir [todo] el periodo de arrendamiento/de cumplir el arrendamiento en caso de que no pueda acceder a la vivienda vacacional a causa de hechos inusuales/extraordinarios... sin importar o no si tales hechos pudieron anticiparse en el momento en que se formalizó/se celebró el o ... el contrato de arrendamiento"
Explicación:
Considero que la acepción de "completion of tenancy" se refiere en este caso al cumplimiento del [acuerdo de] arrendamiento, pues posteriormente en la misma frase se dice que ya se formalizó o se celebró dicho contrato: "at the time the agreement for holiday home intermediary services ***or a tenancy was entered into***".
Discussion
This ambiguous drafting cannot be from the UK and, if it is, the drafter is getting mixed up with mortgage and conveyancing completion.