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Apr 30, 2020 17:47
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English term
"Stonewall Matilda"
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Cinema, Film, TV, Drama
Bergerac TV Series
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It's always good to see
conscientiousness in one SO young! (Bergerac)
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- Just in case you dozed off. (Willy)
- Not a chance. (Bergerac)
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Not with the sparkling conversation (Bergerac)
of Stonewall Matilda here! (Ironic!!!)
Of course, I guess what's going on,
but I would like to know, what is this "Stonewall Matilda" ?
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:04,594
It's always good to see
conscientiousness in one SO young! (Bergerac)
347
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,870
- Just in case you dozed off. (Willy)
- Not a chance. (Bergerac)
348
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:11,630
Not with the sparkling conversation (Bergerac)
of Stonewall Matilda here! (Ironic!!!)
Of course, I guess what's going on,
but I would like to know, what is this "Stonewall Matilda" ?
Responses
3 | uncommunicative | Katya Kesten |
3 -3 | Stonewall Matilda | Bianca Damacena |
Responses
5 mins
uncommunicative
I think he's referring to Matilda not being particularly forthcoming. "Sparkling" is used sarcastically
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Note added at 9 mins (2020-04-30 17:57:01 GMT)
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Of course, stonewalling refers to refusing to communicate or cooperate.
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Note added at 9 mins (2020-04-30 17:57:01 GMT)
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Of course, stonewalling refers to refusing to communicate or cooperate.
-3
16 mins
Stonewall Matilda
Matilda is about that homonymous movie in which this little girl is angry at her family constantly ignoring her. She is pretty smart.
Stonewall relates to that event when the LGBT community in New York starts violent protests against police invasion in the bar they would go.
Maybe Bergerac is making some iroic reference to the other person's intelligence (or lack of it) and sexual orientation.
Stonewall relates to that event when the LGBT community in New York starts violent protests against police invasion in the bar they would go.
Maybe Bergerac is making some iroic reference to the other person's intelligence (or lack of it) and sexual orientation.
Peer comment(s):
disagree |
Tony M
: The 'stonewall' here is only about being silent, nothing to do with the Stonewall riots in New York. Nor can it be anything to do with the film you mention, since this series pre-dates that film by several years.
1 hr
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disagree |
Yvonne Gallagher
: The Bergerac episode predates film. Nothing to do with riots, intelligence (or lack of it) or sexual orientation
4 hrs
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disagree |
Lydia De Jorge
: Agree with Tony and Yvonne.
5 hrs
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Discussion
I’m inclined to agree with you guys that they must be calling a hard guy by a girly name for comedic effect, but have no idea why they’re specifically using the name Matilda. I mentioned a possible historical reference, just in case, but clearly state that that it's kind of a stretch.
Bergerac 6x07 "Private Fight" aired - 13 February 1988.
Close, but I don't think so.
I am inclined to Tony's opinion.
Bergerac just said that.
I just wondered
isn't this some rare idiom.
That's all.
"In 1139, Matilda crossed to England to take the kingdom by force, supported by her half-brother Robert of Gloucester and her uncle King David I of Scotland, while Geoffrey focused on conquering Normandy. Matilda's forces captured Stephen at the Battle of Lincoln in 1141, but the Empress' attempt to be crowned at Westminster collapsed in the face of bitter opposition from the London crowds. As a result of this retreat, Matilda was never formally declared Queen of England, and was instead titled "Lady of the English."
I still think it was just the silliest girl's name they could think of — especially when you look at the face of the (well-known) actor playing a character who looks like a bit of a bruiser (certainly bruised, anyway!) Often these things simply arise as in jokes or are the result of an ad lib by one of the actors that is kept in the script...
The “Bergerac” episode is from 1988, and in 1988 Roald Dahl published his novel “Matilda”. The character of the book is a very talkative girl, that’s why, in my opinion, Bergerac talks about “Stonewall Matilda” with irony (she is talkative but the man in the episode doesn’t want to speak).
Bergerac only said that ironically.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1AxZ-0pw90QeZUUN_st2-1NYMMX...
But I don't think you should try and read too much into this, unless further clues emerge later in the episode. Tip: check the credits if you don't find out what the character's name is.
but what exactly is this reference to?
@Bianca Damacena
Which film?
The Bergerac episode is from 1988.
Matilda - 1996 ??? Is this film? It's no make sense.
Besides, it concerns a beaten guy
who doesn't want to reveal who did this to him.