Dec 28, 2020 08:43
3 yrs ago
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French term
pas carré
French to English
Tech/Engineering
Manufacturing
Associated with a production line + conveyors system handling small items
For confidentiality reasons, I can't give more detailed context, but here is the manufacturer's own description of what this piece of equipment is:
« C’est un ensemble mécanique qui se déplace, La successions des mouvements forment un carré.
avancer -> descendre -> reculer -> monter »
It appears, as far as I can tell, to be involved with lifting a group of (small) items off a conveyor belt in order to transfer them onwards.
While I can visualise perfectly what it does, I can find no other comparable instances on the 'Net, so I'm assuming it is jargon specific to this company (and if you find out who that is, please DO NOT reveal their name here!) — and worse, I can't even begin to imagine what one might call it in EN-US! The best I've come up with so far is "rectangular-movement transfer unit", but that's unbearably clunky, especially for repeated use!
« C’est un ensemble mécanique qui se déplace, La successions des mouvements forment un carré.
avancer -> descendre -> reculer -> monter »
It appears, as far as I can tell, to be involved with lifting a group of (small) items off a conveyor belt in order to transfer them onwards.
While I can visualise perfectly what it does, I can find no other comparable instances on the 'Net, so I'm assuming it is jargon specific to this company (and if you find out who that is, please DO NOT reveal their name here!) — and worse, I can't even begin to imagine what one might call it in EN-US! The best I've come up with so far is "rectangular-movement transfer unit", but that's unbearably clunky, especially for repeated use!
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 | looping squarishly |
Johannes Gleim
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| 3 | dual axis |
SafeTex
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Change log
Dec 28, 2020 09:14: Tony M changed "Language pair" from "English to French" to "French to English"
Proposed translations
13 hrs
Johannes Gleim
Specializes in field
40 years Engineer, 20 years translations
Native in: German
Works in: English to German, German to English, French to German, and 6 more.
Related KudoZ points
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looping squarishly
The "carré" describes only the travel order of the conveyed parts. It’s only an allegory and must not be translated literally.
I consider phrasing as follows:
It is a squarishly looping conveyor unit. Lateral and vertical movements follow each other (square-like motions). Forwards -> Downwards -> Reverse -> Upwards ".
By separating the power and free rails, the conveyor provides a high degree of process flexibility and can stop individual carriers, switch their direction, raise and lower them with lowerators and transport them from process-to-process at high speeds to minimize WIP.
https://www.herrindustrial.com/paint-system-components/conve...
Today we are highlighting two of our conveyor loop displays, the 1100 Series display and 2200 Series SmartFlex & 3200 Series Modular Belt display.
https://www.dornerconveyors.com/europe/blog/pack-expo-2016-b...
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Note added at 13 hrs (2020-12-28 22:06:32 GMT)
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Indexing systems employ an overhead square transfer conveyor or programmable hoist(s) to vertically lift the parts in and out of a series of dip tanks matched closely to the maximum part size to minimize the paint volume. Because of the e-coat tank dwell time (typically 2 minutes) and time to move and lift the parts, these systems are generally limited to approximately 20 loads per hour. Square transfer is typically a lower cost than the programmable hoists but has limited process flexibility; all tanks are dipped for the same time and no tanks can be skipped.
https://www.herrindustrial.com/industrial-paint-finishing-sy...
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Note added at 23 hrs (2020-12-29 07:59:54 GMT)
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You may also empoy verbs indicating directions of movement, like convey/move to, lift/elevate, lower/dip, return to origin, etc., depending on the wider context, e.g if the system is used for galvanization, as shown in the HERR references.
I consider phrasing as follows:
It is a squarishly looping conveyor unit. Lateral and vertical movements follow each other (square-like motions). Forwards -> Downwards -> Reverse -> Upwards ".
By separating the power and free rails, the conveyor provides a high degree of process flexibility and can stop individual carriers, switch their direction, raise and lower them with lowerators and transport them from process-to-process at high speeds to minimize WIP.
https://www.herrindustrial.com/paint-system-components/conve...
Today we are highlighting two of our conveyor loop displays, the 1100 Series display and 2200 Series SmartFlex & 3200 Series Modular Belt display.
https://www.dornerconveyors.com/europe/blog/pack-expo-2016-b...
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Note added at 13 hrs (2020-12-28 22:06:32 GMT)
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Indexing systems employ an overhead square transfer conveyor or programmable hoist(s) to vertically lift the parts in and out of a series of dip tanks matched closely to the maximum part size to minimize the paint volume. Because of the e-coat tank dwell time (typically 2 minutes) and time to move and lift the parts, these systems are generally limited to approximately 20 loads per hour. Square transfer is typically a lower cost than the programmable hoists but has limited process flexibility; all tanks are dipped for the same time and no tanks can be skipped.
https://www.herrindustrial.com/industrial-paint-finishing-sy...
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Note added at 23 hrs (2020-12-29 07:59:54 GMT)
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You may also empoy verbs indicating directions of movement, like convey/move to, lift/elevate, lower/dip, return to origin, etc., depending on the wider context, e.g if the system is used for galvanization, as shown in the HERR references.
Peer comment(s):
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Thomas Miles
: Would 'quadrilaterally' be a small improvement if we go down this route?
22 hrs
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I don't think so. // I would like to prefer verbal constructions.
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2 days 20 hrs
dual axis
Hello
I don't think anyone has mentioned this in the discussion but I only had a quick look.
A dual axis movement would only produce square or rectangular type movement I believe
I don't think anyone has mentioned this in the discussion but I only had a quick look.
A dual axis movement would only produce square or rectangular type movement I believe
Reference comments
9 hrs
Peter Shortall
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
United Kingdom
Legal / Business / Government
Native in: English
Works in: Romanian to English, Russian to English, French to English
Reference:
Mechanism with similar movement (US company)
I get the impression you've already ruled out "square" in favour of "rectangular", but since you say you've found no comparable instances on the Internet, I'll post this as it's from the website of a company in the US (Pennsylvania) and describes a movement along the lines you describe in relation to a conveyor belt system. Sadly there's no picture, but the description of the movement is clear enough. There are a fair few Ghits for "square transfer" either on its own or with "hoist" and/or "conveyor", so you might find something better after more refined searches involving some or all of those terms.
Unlike your current idea of "rectangular-movement transfer", "square transfer" does away with "movement", so perhaps you could do likewise to make it less clunky? I can see why you might be loath to, as it might suggest - in theory - that the transferring hoist/lifter is square itself, yet that's what they've done below. Snappiness often trumps accuracy in the real world, doesn't it?!
NB I think this link concerns a conveyor belt rather than a piece of equipment that hoists things off conveyors, but at least the movement appears to be similar and it's US English. In reality, I dare say the movement is actually rectangular rather than a perfect square, yet they've used "square" nonetheless!
Square Transfer and Programmable Hoist
Square transfer and programmable hoist conveyors are generally used in an indexing fashion for lower production dip applications like electrocoat or autophoretic systems. **Square transfer, like its name implies, employs a lifting mechanism making a "square" movement by simultaneously lifting all parts up, moving them ahead a single increment, lowering them and returning to the home position**.
https://certifications.thomasnet.com/catalogs/item/148405-11...
Unlike your current idea of "rectangular-movement transfer", "square transfer" does away with "movement", so perhaps you could do likewise to make it less clunky? I can see why you might be loath to, as it might suggest - in theory - that the transferring hoist/lifter is square itself, yet that's what they've done below. Snappiness often trumps accuracy in the real world, doesn't it?!
NB I think this link concerns a conveyor belt rather than a piece of equipment that hoists things off conveyors, but at least the movement appears to be similar and it's US English. In reality, I dare say the movement is actually rectangular rather than a perfect square, yet they've used "square" nonetheless!
Square Transfer and Programmable Hoist
Square transfer and programmable hoist conveyors are generally used in an indexing fashion for lower production dip applications like electrocoat or autophoretic systems. **Square transfer, like its name implies, employs a lifting mechanism making a "square" movement by simultaneously lifting all parts up, moving them ahead a single increment, lowering them and returning to the home position**.
https://certifications.thomasnet.com/catalogs/item/148405-11...
Discussion
This video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEpF_Ncq8Dw shows a feeder that moves in a 'box motion' to push 3 items at a time into a wrapper.
This one (at 33 sec on) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDuRkvTkGqE shows the 'box motion' used in a wrapping plastic cups.
This one (at 40 seconds on) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rC98DEK_v0&feature=emb_logo shows 'box motion' used in a different packaging setting.
Also referenced here in a setting where decorative foils are placed on items (pages 136 & 137, description and a drawing of the motion in figure 5.27) https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=1npYQOxhYVMC&pg=PA136&lp...
The translation solution I have adopted for the moment, subject to customer validation, is '4-step transfer unit'; this has the advantage of tying in nicely with other 'transfer units' in this installation, and in places where it is repeated too much, I can just omit the '4-step'.
Thanks everyone for your contributions so far!
In context, as a non-specialist, some suggestions, more or less inspired from EN sources but basically cobbled together!
- square lift-and-transfer module? (altho' this one suggests the shape of the device, not its movement)
- square-lifting transfer unit/device?
"Square" is tricky for searches as it is so often used in EN contexts in relation to alignment, obviously important with conveyor belts.
I hoped I'd made it clear, the text I quoted was the customer's explanation of what it is / how it operates.
Yes, the fact that it is rather telegraphically referred to by the way it operates doesn't help one bit! In fact, it must be understood as "a unit that operates on a 'pas carré' basis" — this is obviously in-house engineer-speak!
The whole document is appallingly badly written :-(
four-way
four-sided
quadrangular
square(-like)
Sadly, I can't find the actual FR term on any of the sites your refer to?
The trouble is, 'pas carré' is also commonly used in another way in connection with conveyors, and I suspect that is what we have here, where the 'pas' has the sence of the 'pitch'
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The only way I can describe it (as best as I can understand it) is that this device is located under Conveyor A, then rises up in between the chains that form the conveyor in order to lift the last X components off the conveyor, then moves forward till it is above Conveyor B, where it lowers to place the components onto the new conveyor, then it drops down again completely below the conveyor and moves back to its original position.
It seems an inordinately complex way of achieving its apparently simple objective — although the whole production line is actually rather more involved than that makes it sound!