French term
Lithuania
patent / technical translator
Native in: French 
Works in: French to English, English to French
en redondant
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Proposed translations
by making ... redundant
However, it might be better style to reformulate slightly, something along the lines of "by incorporating redundancy into these systems..." etc.
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: "by incorporating redundancy into these systems..." // "making s.t. / s.o. redundant" is too open to misinterpretation, as it could also mean the exact opposite "being surplus to requirement / of no use".
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Thanks, Daryo! In practice, in context, and in idiomatic EN, that hypothetical misinterpretation would never occur, since it is clear we are not talking about any kind of superfluity here; however, I agree that a more elegant formulation is better.
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40 years Engineer, 20 years translations
Native in: German
Works in: English to German, German to English, French to German, and 6 more.
(obtained) by redundant (systems)
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/301987566_Two-Unit_...
Reliability analysis of two-unit stand-by redundant systems allowing for aging
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/037837...
Both, high availability and disaster recovery, are realized by redundant systems. Redundancy can and should be implemented on different abstraction levels: from the hardware, the operating system and middleware components up to the backup computing center in case of a disaster.
https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd...
Reliability analysis of two-unit stand-by redundant systems allowing for aging
R. Dominicis
Journal of Statistical Planning and Inference
Abstract This paper reports the results derived from a reliability analysis of a two-component system subject to the aging process where the two components are repairable and the switchover is perfect.
https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Reliability-analysis-o...
L'exploitation interconnectée active est également possible en système redondant avec plusieurs groupes.
Active interconnected operation in the redundant system with multiple units is also possible.
Les fibres sont redondantes et en technologie réseau MPLS.
The fibres are redundant and use MPLS (Multiprotocol Label Switching) network technology.
L'invention concerne un module redondant servant à découpler des courants de court-circuit dans une alimentation en courant redondante.
The invention relates to a redundant module for decoupling short circuit currents in a redundant voltage supply.
https://dictionnaire.reverso.net/francais-anglais/en redonda...
(Please do not use 'make redundant'. This means to dismissal).
I would circumscribe the French gerund "en ..ant" by "by"
Context translation:
In addition, the issue to limit the costs of electrical systems requires a compromise between a gain in availability obtained by redundant systems and the increased costs associated with such redundancy.
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We've had this before
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/french-to-english/computers-system...
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Daryo
: that answer is of limited use for this ST - "systèmes électriques" and disks used in IT are very very distant cousins - check the context(s) before telling other people not to post a question.
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Discussion
'redunding' not found
redund
rare
To make redundant. Usually in passive.
Origin
Early 20th century (in an earlier sense). Back-formation from redundant.
https://www.lexico.com/definition/redund
No results were found for redunding
https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=redunding
“redunding”
The word you've entered isn't in the dictionary.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/redunding
You can only say: 'this system is redundant', the redundant system'.
Note: Used normally in the adjective mode or as noun.
@ Phil, en rédaction technique, redonder ne s'utilise pas. Sur CNRTL, on trouve certes quelques mentions du verbe redonder. Toutefois, elles sont toutes rares, obsolètes ou inadaptées au contexte. Mais merci tout de même d'avoir soulevé que le verbe existe en tant que tel.
I'd checked Collins/Robert, French Concise Dictionary, and found:
redondance nf: la ~ / superfluidy,
redondant, e / superfluous
Ernst, Dictionnaire Général de la Technique Industrielle shows:
redondance f / redundancy | ~ de secours / stand-by redundancy
redondant (math, ord) / abundant, redundant.
No mention of 'redonder', either.
• REDONDER, verbe intrans.
A. − Rare. Être très abondant, surabondant, en surplus.
B. − STYL. [Le suj. désigne une pers. ou un mode d'expr.] User de redondance(s) (v. ce mot B) …
C. − Vx, littér. Redoubler de force, d'intensité. Ta demande est de l'Or, (...) de la Valeur qui hausse et redonde de Bourse en Bourse, de Banque en Banque. Dans ses expressions superbement redonde
Étymol. Hist. 1. 1erquart xiiies. « déborder, être en abondance » 2. 1690 « être inutile, superflu (dans le discours ou les écrits) » (Fur.); 3. 1798 redonder de (Ac.). Empr. au lat.redundare « déborder » d'où « être surabondant, exubérant (le style) »
And "make redundant" is perfectly OK - its meaning is apparent from the context.
This means to dismiss personal or making something superfluously." See Chris' comment on the English language.
Je ne connais pas non plus le verbe « redonder ».
Did it take account of the age profile of those it was making redundant at extremely short notice?
A-t-elle tenu compte, en l'occurrence, du profil d'âge des personnes qu'elle licenciait ainsi moyennant un préavis extrêmement réduit?
This is just an underhand way of making workers redundant.
Il s 'agit bel et bien d'une méthode déguisée de licenciement.
The trend emanated from a retiring government which is making itself redundant as a result of liberalisation and privatisation.
Cette tendance émanait d'une autorité en recul, se rendant elle-même superflue en libéralisant et en privatisant.
…, thus making redundant all other, non-renewable energy sources currently in use,
…, ce qui rendrait inutiles toutes les autres sources non renouvelables utilisées actuellement;
https://context.reverso.net/traduction/anglais-francais/maki...