French term
France
Legal & technical translator EN/DE>FR
Native in: French (Variant: Standard-France) 
Works in: English to French, German to French, French
les sels de formule (X)
| 3 +2 | salts with the formula |
Bashiqa
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| 4 | salts of formula (X) |
Johannes Gleim
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| 3 | salts of [various elements] whose/with formula is of the X type |
Daryo
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Non-PRO (2): philgoddard, Yvonne Gallagher
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Proposed translations
salts with the formula
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MoiraB
: Asker doesn't give a whole lot of context but it's hard to see what else it could mean. Formule just refers to the chemical formula of the salt in question, e.g. potassium bitartrate KC4H5O6
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Thank you.
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philgoddard
: Though I don't know what X means or why different salts appear to have the same formula. // Daryo's disagree is wrong, just for a change. The question is "les sels de formule (X)". It doesn't include "de élément A. B, C".
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Thank you. Different formula could be a chloride or a carbonate.
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Daryo
: you can't ignore the "de [élément A, B, C, etc.]" part // the ST is more important than how the question was formulated.
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Kim Metzger
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salts of [various elements] whose/with formula is of the X type
The "de formule (X)" part would suggest that most likely the text is about a number of different salts with a "typical / similar" formula.
You really need at least a whole sentence from the ST to make sure the translation fits the ST.
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Note added at 6 hrs (2021-11-09 16:20:58 GMT)
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salts of [some element] whose formula is of the X type
salts of [some element] with a formula of the X type
40 years Engineer, 20 years translations
Native in: German
Works in: English to German, German to English, French to German, and 6 more.
salts of formula (X)
Example:
La présente invention a pour objet de nouveaux sels de métaux bivalents de l'acide N, N-di(carboxymé- thyl)amino-2 cyano-3 carboxyméthyl-4 carboxy-5 thiophène, leur procédé de préparation et les compositions pharmaceutiques les refermant.
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4. Le procédé de préparation des sels de métaux bivalents de la revendication 1, caractérisé en ce que l'on utilise comme matière première le tétraester de formule II :
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3. lequel acide est un produit nouveau utilisé comme intermédiaire de synthèse pour préparer, selon les revendications 1 et 2, les sels de formule I définie dans la revendication 1.
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/12/f9/4f/2ca7ff8...
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The present invention relates to new bivalent metal salts of N,N-di(carboxymethyl)amino-2-cyano-3-carboxymethyl-4-carboxy-5-thiophene acid, process for their preparation and pharmaceutical compositions containing them.
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4. The process for the preparation of the bivalent metal salts of claim 1, characterized in that the starting material used is the tetraester of formula II:
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3. which acid is a new product used as a synthesis intermediate to prepare, according to claims 1 and 2, the salts of formula I as defined in claim 1.
Another example:
[0010] La présente invention a donc pour objet les sels de formule générale (I) :
https://patents.google.com/patent/EP0425362A2
=> [0010] The present invention thus has as its object the salts of general formula (I):
IV. A l'appui de ses requêtes, la requérante a essentiellement fait valoir que dans le document D1 les sels de formule (RfSO2)2NLi dans lesquels le substituant Rf représente un atome de fluor
https://www.epo.org/law-practice/case-law-appeals/recent/t01...
=> IV. In support of its claims, the applicant has essentially argued that in document D1 salts of the formula (RfSO2)2NLi in which the substituent Rf represents a fluorine atom
Conclusion: 'the particle 'of' is suitable for describing the subject in most cases, even if the phrase is incomplete.
Discussion
Which BTW confirms my hunch that "les sels de formule (X)" is about a whole group/category, not one element.
It really is onium as belonging to groups 15-17 of the periodic table.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onium_ion
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composé_onium
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onium-Verbindung
The name ionium for 230Th is a remnant from a period when different isotopes were not recognised to be the same element and were given different names.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorium
so as to provide a little more context, I'm trying to translate in particular the expression "les sels d'onium de formule (X)", (X) being here the Roman number 10, used to refer to a particular chemical formula illustrated further away in my document. The salt is here being used as a cationic photoinitiator.
By way of (maybe incorrect) illustration, (X) looks somewhat like General formulae (4) to (11) found here:
https://patents.google.com/patent/TWI702270B/en ,
It appears my question was well understood so far, and the answers are consistent with my problem :)
Considering the answers, the detailed expression would translate as "onium salts of (the) formula/ with the formula (X)"
Thank you very much for your time. I'll leave the debate open a little longer in case anyone would want to provide further information.