Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

nostridad

English translation:

nostrism

Added to glossary by José Patrício
Jun 2, 2022 07:49
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Spanish term

nostridad

Spanish to English Social Sciences Social Science, Sociology, Ethics, etc.
I don't know if there is an equivalent term. From "la pervivencia de la individualidad, el carácter fluido de la nostridad y la finitud estructurada de su extensión"

Sociology paper.

TIA
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Jun 9, 2022 08:13: José Patrício Created KOG entry

Discussion

Toni Castano Jun 3, 2022:
"Nostridad" versus "nostrismo" Thanks to Taña for pointing it out. This contribution is just to make clear that both concepts do NOT always mean the same. So careful. See for instance here:

www.cbioetica.org/descarga/reflex_8.pdf
BIOÉTICA DE LA NOSTRIDAD, UN APORTE AL CONCEPTO DE DIGNIDAD
(...)
En este sentido la nostridad se opone al “nostrismo”, (...)
Toni Castano Jun 2, 2022:
@Matt You may find this paper interesting, admittedly not related to sociology, but to bioethics. In spite of this, it offers a comprehensible definition of "nostridad" (= "We-Relationship"). "Nostrism" is mostly used in philosophical circles among scholars. Your terminogical choice might depend on the target audience.
ndl.ethernet.edu.et/bitstream/123456789/11864/1/38.Leo%20Pessini.pdf
(...)
1 “Nostridad” (We-Relationship) is the name of the union of “I” and “Other” for creating an inclusive “we/us”. N.T

Sorry, the paper is a PDF document, and I can´t provide any access to the source.
matt robinson (asker) Jun 2, 2022:
@neilmac

We two are one.
matt robinson (asker) Jun 2, 2022:
@Toni
Not specifically,. It's a social science/sociology/anthropology paper on sociality and society.
Toni Castano Jun 2, 2022:
@Matt Does your query have to do with Ortega y Gasset´s philosophy?
neilmac Jun 2, 2022:
@Matt Rather you than me, mate. This kind of "identitarian" piffle gets right up my snoot.

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nostrism

La noción de "nostridad" o "nostrismo" (en inglés o nostrism) alude a la "idea de nosotros" y los procesos de su construcción. - http://www.scielo.org.mx/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S...
Thus there is an element communism or nostrim in all shared actions. Yet it is only in intrinsic shared action that the nostrism stands on its own and is not put into service for other individual (egoistic or altruistic) goals.
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agree neilmac : Regrettably, this egregious word is now a thing...
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OK thanks
agree Barbara Cochran, MFA : I don't like it either. I was glad to find out recently that sociology is a discipline that is starting to become somewhat ignored and put on the back burner.
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OK thanks
agree philgoddard : This is a perfectly valid concept that fills a gap in the language and was coined eighty years ago. And sociology has lots of fascinating insights to offer.
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We-ness

Like Taña in the reference comments, I want to suggest "we-ness" instead of "nostrism". The reason is that there is a difference between describing something as a state/quality ("nostridad" - "we-ness") or as a doctrine/attitude ("nostrismo" - "nostrism"). Compare "selfness" and "egoism", or "otherness" and "altruism".

See page 6 of the following text for an example of the difference in usage: https://docplayer.es/35009145-Bioetica-de-la-nostridad-un-ap...
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agree Toni Castano : I agree with your approach and your fundamental distinction between "nostridad" and "nostrismo". Somehow, this difference must be stressed in English too.
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Thank you Toni!
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a spirit/sense of belonging

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Reference comments

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Reference:

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nostrity or nostrism = "we-ness".

http://www.scielo.org.mx/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S...
RESUMEN

El presente artículo aborda cuatro constructos teóricos para analizar el tránsito de la otredad a la ** nostridad** en el sistema de clasificaciones con que se construyen las sociedades. Se discuten modelos explicativos de la polaridad "lo otro" y "nosotros" mediante una trayectoria que parte de lo ritual, pasa por el drama social y arriba a lo posritual.

ABSTRACT
This article deals with four theoretical constructs for analyzing the transition from otherness to **we-ness** in the classification system with which societies are built. It discusses explanatory models of the polarity between the other and us by means of a path that has ritual as its starting point, goes through the social drama to arrive at the post-ritual.

Ello permite reformular la pregunta inicial en términos de qué nos dicen las teorías de la clasificación sobre la manera en que quien es o ha sido construido como el otro puede transitar a formar parte de la nostridad.1

1La noción de "nostridad" o "nostrismo" (en inglés nostrity o nostrism) alude a la "idea de nosotros" y los procesos de su construcción. Se ha rastreado en la obra de 1932: Der sinnhafte Aufbau der sozialen Welt, de Alfred Schütz (donde figura la "relación de nosotros" como Wirbeziehung). En castellano, nostridad aparece en el escrito de 1957 El peligro que es el Otro y la sorpresa que es el Yo, de José Ortega y Gasset (1983). Véanse al respecto: López (1959); Hermida-Lazcano (1996); y Naval y Suárez (2000).

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The Taken-for-Granted World - JSTOR https://www.jstor.org › stable
by P Hermida-Lazcano · 1996 · Cited by 8 — social relation, must transform itself into nostrism or nostrity (nostrismo or nostridad), defined in Der sinnhafte Aufbau as the We-relationship.
Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree philgoddard
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Thanks.
agree Toni Castano : "Nostrity" and "nostrism" opens a new dimension of the debate. Thanks for posting.
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Thanks Toni.
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