May 17, 2004 15:31
20 yrs ago
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Spanish term
se caga
Non-PRO
Spanish to English
Art/Literary
Cinema, Film, TV, Drama
en una de las peliculas de Almodovar 'la portera' prevented from going to the toilet 'se caga'. How to say it in English, that it would not sound as bad as 'she shits ....' or something like that...Any ideas?
Proposed translations
(English)
4 +2 | soils herself | Casey Butterfield |
5 +4 | shit herself | Marian Greenfield |
5 +2 | she shit her pants | David Russi |
5 +2 | she crapped her pants / she went in her pants | kellyn (X) |
5 +1 | She poos in her pants and on the floor | Begoña Yañez |
3 | shits in her pants (or panties, or whatever the hell she was wearing) | George Rabel |
5 -2 | she goes on herself | Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X) |
3 -2 | takes a crap | adpace |
Proposed translations
+2
2 mins
Selected
soils herself
the nicer, euphemistic way to say it. But also depends on context -- se caga en el suelo, en sus pantalones, ¿dónde?
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Note added at 17 mins (2004-05-17 15:49:50 GMT)
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grácias por el contexto, entonces propongo:
...she soils herself and the floor.
Mrs. Wallace is hell-bent on embarrassing her daughter. She soils herself at the party and ruins one of Julian\'s chairs.
http://www.soapcentral.com/ps/recaps/2002/02sep16.php
Student denied bathroom pass soils herself (a genteel phrase)
http://www.bradmesser.com/J2_BonusPages/2002-05-heads.htm
During this period, Ryan suffered through a nearly continuous cycle of three to four days of constipation followed by three to four days of erratic, bloody and painful diarrhea. Ryan claims that if she could not get to a bathroom within five to ten seconds of an attack she would soil her clothes.
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=2nd&n...
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Note added at 17 mins (2004-05-17 15:49:50 GMT)
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grácias por el contexto, entonces propongo:
...she soils herself and the floor.
Mrs. Wallace is hell-bent on embarrassing her daughter. She soils herself at the party and ruins one of Julian\'s chairs.
http://www.soapcentral.com/ps/recaps/2002/02sep16.php
Student denied bathroom pass soils herself (a genteel phrase)
http://www.bradmesser.com/J2_BonusPages/2002-05-heads.htm
During this period, Ryan suffered through a nearly continuous cycle of three to four days of constipation followed by three to four days of erratic, bloody and painful diarrhea. Ryan claims that if she could not get to a bathroom within five to ten seconds of an attack she would soil her clothes.
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=2nd&n...
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Amy Billing
: definately a nicer way of putting it :)
4 mins
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thanks bartera!
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disagree |
Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
: This is too nice ...the popular is to go oneself..soil oneself is for people with Alzeihmer or sick people
30 mins
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Thanks for your opinion, but the act of soiling can be used to describe any involuntary defecation. This is evident in the second link (a student, not an old or infirm person).
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agree |
Refugio
: The poser of the question did ask for a nicer way of putting it
2 hrs
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thanks, ruth. I agree, shit and crap is all well and good, but only if the context calls for it
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agree |
PB Trans
3 hrs
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thanks pina!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks to all!"
+4
3 mins
shit herself
that's it, you really don't need to soften it...
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Peer comment(s):
agree |
Aoife Kennedy
: yes, correct in this context, and softening it would be tantamount to censorship
3 mins
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agree |
Andrea Sacchi
5 mins
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agree |
Sandra Cifuentes Dowling
44 mins
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agree |
forli
52 mins
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neutral |
kellyn (X)
: I'm inclined to say "cagar" is more equivalent to "crap." I'm basing this on the frecuency of usage. "Cagar" is used more freely than "shit." Also, "crap" is considered a rude/inappropriate word by SOME, but "shit" is more universally a 'bad word'
1 hr
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neutral |
Refugio
: Agree with kellyn that shit is a stronger word than cagar.
2 hrs
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-2
8 mins
takes a crap
This is also quite crude (and "slangy"), but there is no use of profanity here. Just a suggestion. If you really want to tame it, use Casey's answer - she "soils herself."
Peer comment(s):
disagree |
Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
: no she craps on herself..not she takes a crap
25 mins
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disagree |
Refugio
: Agree with Jane. To take a crap is voluntary.
2 hrs
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9 mins
shits in her pants (or panties, or whatever the hell she was wearing)
I do not see anything to indicate that the poor lady in question was scared about anything, just prevented to make use of the sanitary facilities. I would use "scared shitless" as a translation of "cagarse de miedo", sure, but that does not seem to be the case here.
+2
8 mins
she shit her pants
It's quite vulgar in Spanish, I would keep the same tone in any translation.
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Note added at 46 mins (2004-05-17 16:18:01 GMT)
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Given the added context:
she shit all over herself and on the floor
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Note added at 46 mins (2004-05-17 16:18:01 GMT)
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Given the added context:
she shit all over herself and on the floor
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Ltemes
: "shitS" IN her pants.
8 mins
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neutral |
Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
: to shit one's pants= fear..to shit in one's pants= to go on oneself
26 mins
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agree |
Yvette Arcelay (X)
23 hrs
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-2
5 mins
she goes on herself
to go on oneself...that is what it means...I misread before
this means se cagar
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Note added at 6 mins (2004-05-17 15:38:49 GMT)
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If this is a written piece on his film, I think she goes on herself is how we might find it in English..rather than she shits on herself...that would be in a dialogue but not in a critique....
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Note added at 35 mins (2004-05-17 16:07:48 GMT)
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IT DEPENDS ON THE CONTEXT AND THE AUDIENCE......IN A JOURNALISTIC PIECE YOU PROBABLY WOULD NOT USE SHIT UNLESS IT\'S FOR A PARTICULAR EMPHASIS...WITHOUT PROVIDING CONTEXT, YOU GET WHAT YOU GET
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Note added at 37 mins (2004-05-17 16:09:00 GMT)
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FINAL: she goes in her pants
I disagree that the Spanish is vulgar. It might appear in a piece whereas it English it wouldn\'t. The use of cagar in Spanish is freer that in English. Believe it or not....:)
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Note added at 38 mins (2004-05-17 16:10:15 GMT)
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FINAL @: SHE GOES IN HER PANTIES AND ON THE FLOOR
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Note added at 48 mins (2004-05-17 16:19:52 GMT)
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If you are going to use shit, it has to be:
She shits IN her panties and ON the floor
not she shits herself....at least, let\'s be grammatical even when vulgar
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Note added at 49 mins (2004-05-17 16:21:19 GMT)
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BUT, I would REALLY LIKE TO KNOW THE CONTEXT......
context is everything
resistance is futile
this means se cagar
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Note added at 6 mins (2004-05-17 15:38:49 GMT)
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If this is a written piece on his film, I think she goes on herself is how we might find it in English..rather than she shits on herself...that would be in a dialogue but not in a critique....
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Note added at 35 mins (2004-05-17 16:07:48 GMT)
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IT DEPENDS ON THE CONTEXT AND THE AUDIENCE......IN A JOURNALISTIC PIECE YOU PROBABLY WOULD NOT USE SHIT UNLESS IT\'S FOR A PARTICULAR EMPHASIS...WITHOUT PROVIDING CONTEXT, YOU GET WHAT YOU GET
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Note added at 37 mins (2004-05-17 16:09:00 GMT)
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FINAL: she goes in her pants
I disagree that the Spanish is vulgar. It might appear in a piece whereas it English it wouldn\'t. The use of cagar in Spanish is freer that in English. Believe it or not....:)
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Note added at 38 mins (2004-05-17 16:10:15 GMT)
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FINAL @: SHE GOES IN HER PANTIES AND ON THE FLOOR
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Note added at 48 mins (2004-05-17 16:19:52 GMT)
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If you are going to use shit, it has to be:
She shits IN her panties and ON the floor
not she shits herself....at least, let\'s be grammatical even when vulgar
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Note added at 49 mins (2004-05-17 16:21:19 GMT)
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BUT, I would REALLY LIKE TO KNOW THE CONTEXT......
context is everything
resistance is futile
Peer comment(s):
disagree |
Casey Butterfield
: "She goes herself" or "she goes in her pants" has a juvenile connotation, inappropriate for a journalistic, academic, or any other narrative description of the film, including stage directions.
36 mins
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I don't agree...to go on oneself is not juvenile at all
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disagree |
Alexandra Potts
: "to go on oneself" doesn't have a normal ring to me - in any case, would it exclude pissing oneself? Sounds to me like it doesn't specifically mean "cagarse"
49 mins
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+2
1 hr
she crapped her pants / she went in her pants
And for me, "crapped her/his pants" is a 'fixed phrase.' What i mean is, I would indeed say "crapped her pants" whether or not she was wearing pants.
If you want to make it even LESS offensive, you could say "she went in her pants" (in this case, "went" requires no object) You don't have to say "went pee" or "went poop." just, "she went" because as long as you add "in her pants," the meaning is understood.
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Note added at 3 hrs 38 mins (2004-05-17 19:10:17 GMT)
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She crapped her pants, she crapped in her underwear, and she crapped on the floor. or, \"crapped all over the floor\"
If you want to make it even LESS offensive, you could say "she went in her pants" (in this case, "went" requires no object) You don't have to say "went pee" or "went poop." just, "she went" because as long as you add "in her pants," the meaning is understood.
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Note added at 3 hrs 38 mins (2004-05-17 19:10:17 GMT)
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She crapped her pants, she crapped in her underwear, and she crapped on the floor. or, \"crapped all over the floor\"
Peer comment(s):
agree |
PB Trans
: crapped IN her pants (http://www.wordreference.com/es/en/translation.asp?spen=caga...
2 hrs
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agree |
George Rabel
: Shit.. I agree with your entry here, but disagree with your comment above. "Shit" is much more used than "crap", and the word by itself has so many meanings that it has lost its "badness". "Wow, that's some good shit, dude."..
2 hrs
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Thanks. to reply: Yes and no. I admit that most americans say "shit" more than "crap," but I also take into account, for example, what you would be likely to hear on a prime-time TV show for example. there are arenas where "shit" is still NEVER spoken.
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+1
23 hrs
She poos in her pants and on the floor
Si la traducción es para el Reino Unido.
"She poos..." no suena tan mal y adultos y niños lo emplean por igual en el Reino Unido. "She poos" es also más coloquial que "She soils".
Sin embargo, la belleza de las películas de Almodovar es que están libres de tabús. Cagar = shit or crap.
Si cambias este término, cambias de alguna forma lo que él quiere decir en esa escena.
Un saludo y buena suerte, que está dificilillo ¿verdad?
Begoña
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Note added at 2004-05-18 15:41:21 (GMT)
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These are all examples of adults using the term \"poos\":
Toby did find a wonderful game though........ there was a power hose thing next to the toilet and found he could fire at his none flushable and very floaty **poos** to try and get them to go down, this amused him for quite a while and i haven\'t seen him so animated in ages.
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"She poos..." no suena tan mal y adultos y niños lo emplean por igual en el Reino Unido. "She poos" es also más coloquial que "She soils".
Sin embargo, la belleza de las películas de Almodovar es que están libres de tabús. Cagar = shit or crap.
Si cambias este término, cambias de alguna forma lo que él quiere decir en esa escena.
Un saludo y buena suerte, que está dificilillo ¿verdad?
Begoña
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Note added at 2004-05-18 15:41:21 (GMT)
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These are all examples of adults using the term \"poos\":
Toby did find a wonderful game though........ there was a power hose thing next to the toilet and found he could fire at his none flushable and very floaty **poos** to try and get them to go down, this amused him for quite a while and i haven\'t seen him so animated in ages.
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... Fire of London, people threw their wees and **poos** into the ... It didn’t take long until she began to demand ... pants in the correct pastel shade for her dresses in ... www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,1178-748675,00.html - Supplemental Result
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