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English to Indonesian translations [PRO] Law/Patents - General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters
English term or phrase:declaratory relief
Nothing herein shall prejudice the right of a party to institute proceedings to enforce payment due under this Agreement or to speak injunctive or urgent declaratory relief
Jangan lecehkan jawaban orang lain; sibukkan diri dengan memanfaatkan kolom jawaban sendiri untuk membangun jawaban yang meyakinkan orang untuk menetapkan pilihan.
Anda konsisten mengomentari jawaban saya dengan melanggar Aturan Kudoz. Topik pelanggaran sengaja Anda abaikan. Bacalah kembali Aturan 3.4.
Jika tidak sedang sibuk, silakan bongkar "penetapan declaratoire" di segala pelosok (jangan sudah pengalaman masih minta disuapi secara "full", bisa mulai dari sini naskah Mahkamah Agung ini: https://www.hukumonline.com/pusatdata/detail/19677/node/647/... ), dan cari tahu apakah "declaratoire" ternyata beda dengan "deklaratif". Kalau sudah tahu, taruhlah di kolom jawaban Anda sendiri.
Sudah tertulis tegas-tegas: using the peer comment feature, Apa hak kita melanggar aturan? Sudah ada tempat (kolom jawaban sendiri) untuk memperkuat argumen sendiri, kenapa repot melanggar?
Lebih baik tulis di kolom jawaban sendiri naskah pengadilan yang tegas-tegas menyatakan istilah per jawaban sendiri. Jadi, jawaban sendiri itu memang kuat berdikari, tidak perlu mengurusi jawaban lain.
Aturan sudah dibuat. Alasan ilmiah tidak menjadi alasan untuk Anda seenaknya mempromosikan jawaban sendiri sambil mencoba menihilkan jawaban orang lain. Baca kembali jelas-jelas 3.4:
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In Indonesia, 'penetapan' is the final result of a petition (permohonan or gugatan volunter or gugatan permohonan or gugatan by one party only)(Harahap, 2008:28-29).
Moreover, declaratory relief = A court final decision in response to a unilateral request to a court to determine the legal status or ownership of a thing (Gardner, 2014:1482).
In American legal contexts, court final decisions are divided into two: judgments (for civil cases) and verdicts (for criminal cases) (Oran, 2008:589-590).
In Indonesian legal contexts, court final decisions are also divided into two: putusan (for both civil and criminal cases) and penetapan (for civil cases).
'Putusan' in a civil case is for a case that involves a dispute or at least two parties, while 'penetapan' in a civil case is for a case that does not involve a dispute or involves only one party (Harahap, 2008: 28-29, 46).
I said: a determination that is declaratory in nature. The source text talks about relief, not declaration.
I can find 5 results with Google, why did you try to disregard these findings? 5 is clearly more than "almost no results". I should trust you to be good at searching.
Never search using the weak Bing that fails to produce a single hit for penetapan deklaratif. However, I won't stand in your way if you are a big fan of the search engine, or use it as a benchmark for accurate translation.
Why don't you try "perbedaan putusan dan penetapan" in Google?
I am sorry, I cannot give you enlightenment more; you are more than capable to understand it on your own.
Google has almost no results for "penetapan deklaratif" either. https://www.google.com/search?q="penetapan deklaratif" Around five results only: more than Bing, in this case — but I wouldn't be feeling much more reassured by finding those five 'hits'.
Rather than critiquing search engines, it would be more productive to provide specific supporting links (or citations) to Indonesian sources. In particular to the "Indonesian legal resources" spoken of.
What difference are you proposing between "penetapan" and "putusan"? I notice that you defined "penetapan" = "determination", while the source text relates to a declaration. I would be happy to be enlightened, if details can be provided.
☑️ Terjemahan diusulkan berdasarkan definisi berikut:
https://definitions.uslegal.com/d/declaratory-relief/ Declaratory relief refers to a judgment of a court which determines the rights of parties without ordering anything be done or awarding damages. By seeking a declaratory judgment, the party making the request is seeking for an official declaration of the status of a matter in controversy. ...
👨🏼⚖️ Jadi, semacam penetapan (determination) yang bersifat menyatakan/deklaratif (declaratory) tentang hak, tugas, dan kewajiban para pihak dalam suatu perkara. Dengan adanya penetapan ini, [utamanya] hak para pihak menjadi jelas dalam sengketa sehingga membatasi melebarnya gugatan/klaim.
ErichEko ⟹⭐ Indonesia Local time: 10:40 Works in field Native speaker of: Indonesian PRO pts in category: 173
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putusan deklaratif
Explanation: Declaratory relief = putusan deklaratif, yaitu putusan hakim yang menyatakan hak dan kewajiban para pihak dalam suatu perkara.
Karena sifatnya yang deklaratif, maka putusan ini tidak melibatkan pemberian ganti rugi atau perintah untuk melakukan sesuatu.
Ref.: Oran, Daniel. 2008. Dictionary of the Law. 4th Ed. New York: Thomson Delmar Learning.
Putusan deklarator atau deklaratif (declatoir vonnis) adalah pernyataan hakim yang tertuang dalam putusan yang dijatuhkannya. Pernyataan itu merupakan penjelasan atau penetapan tentang sesuatu hak atau title maupun status dan pernyataan itu dicantumkan dalam amar atau diktum putusan. https://www.hukumonline.com/klinik/detail/ulasan/lt58ed90481...
Hipyan Nopri Indonesia Local time: 10:40 Native speaker of: Indonesian PRO pts in category: 188
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