Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
énergie non-propulsive
English translation:
non-propulsive power
Added to glossary by
B D Finch
Apr 23, 2015 09:55
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énergie non-propulsive
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This is from a patent:
Autrement dit, un moteur d'aéronef fournit, d'une part, une énergie propulsive pour permettre à l'aéronef de se déplacer et, d'autre part, une énergie non propulsive, qui est utilisée comme source principale d'énergie du réseau d'alimentation électrique.
Elsewhere it talks about a 'main power unit', so using the concept of an 'auxiliary power unit' as a base, can I translate this as 'auxiliary energy'? Not many hits for it, but then there's not many for 'non-propulsive energy' or even 'propulsive energy'. So, do I need to take a more liberal approach here; energy used for propulsion/ not used for propulsion?
Thanks in advance!
Autrement dit, un moteur d'aéronef fournit, d'une part, une énergie propulsive pour permettre à l'aéronef de se déplacer et, d'autre part, une énergie non propulsive, qui est utilisée comme source principale d'énergie du réseau d'alimentation électrique.
Elsewhere it talks about a 'main power unit', so using the concept of an 'auxiliary power unit' as a base, can I translate this as 'auxiliary energy'? Not many hits for it, but then there's not many for 'non-propulsive energy' or even 'propulsive energy'. So, do I need to take a more liberal approach here; energy used for propulsion/ not used for propulsion?
Thanks in advance!
Proposed translations
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| 4 +5 | non-propulsive power |
B D Finch
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| 3 | non-propulsion / auxiliary power |
Tony M
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Apr 30, 2015 10:32: B D Finch Created KOG entry
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non-propulsive power
www.transport-research.info/web/projects/project_details.cfm?id=41344
Electro Mechanical Actuators for Aircrafts and Helicopters ... for the next generation of aircraft to lower consumption of non-propulsive power and thus fuel burn.
www.flightglobal.com/.../in-focus-all-electric-systems-prom...
24 Jul 2012 - One of the most familiar sounds on an aircraft - one that disconcerts many ... generator for non-propulsive power, the auxiliary power unit (APU).
Electro Mechanical Actuators for Aircrafts and Helicopters ... for the next generation of aircraft to lower consumption of non-propulsive power and thus fuel burn.
www.flightglobal.com/.../in-focus-all-electric-systems-prom...
24 Jul 2012 - One of the most familiar sounds on an aircraft - one that disconcerts many ... generator for non-propulsive power, the auxiliary power unit (APU).
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Comment: "Thank you very much!"
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non-propulsion / auxiliary power
I only give this medium confidence, as I haven't got time to check it out.
But I really wanted just to point out that very frequently,, when FR uses 'énergie', in EN we use 'power' — cf. expressions like 'motive power' etc. and of course 'Powergen'!
So you may find your further researchees are more fruitfiul if you start looking around 'power' instead — certainly the term 'auxiliary power' is used in very many fields; but I suspect here they may be specifically seeking to emphasisze the 'not for propulsion' aspect, and such precision is important in a patent, so you may need to look a little further for the appropriate EN term.
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Note added at 4 heures (2015-04-23 14:40:28 GMT)
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In fact, much to even my surprise "propulsion power" returns over twice as many Ghits as "propulsive power", as mentioned below by BDF; so it seems that both are valid terms — though possibly not interchangeable.
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Note added at 7 jours (2015-04-30 12:47:34 GMT) Post-grading
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Claire, my remark was not directed at yourself, but at commentators who are not satisfied with answers based on my personal knowledge and experience.
Exactly in order to help people learn, I don't believe in spoon-feeding askers with ready-made answers, but rather to help them with some basic information that will hopefully unlock the key to their own further research — helping them in fact to help themselves.
I felt sure in your case that once I had given you a couple of basic pointers, you would have no trouble pursuing your own research.
But I really wanted just to point out that very frequently,, when FR uses 'énergie', in EN we use 'power' — cf. expressions like 'motive power' etc. and of course 'Powergen'!
So you may find your further researchees are more fruitfiul if you start looking around 'power' instead — certainly the term 'auxiliary power' is used in very many fields; but I suspect here they may be specifically seeking to emphasisze the 'not for propulsion' aspect, and such precision is important in a patent, so you may need to look a little further for the appropriate EN term.
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Note added at 4 heures (2015-04-23 14:40:28 GMT)
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In fact, much to even my surprise "propulsion power" returns over twice as many Ghits as "propulsive power", as mentioned below by BDF; so it seems that both are valid terms — though possibly not interchangeable.
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Note added at 7 jours (2015-04-30 12:47:34 GMT) Post-grading
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Claire, my remark was not directed at yourself, but at commentators who are not satisfied with answers based on my personal knowledge and experience.
Exactly in order to help people learn, I don't believe in spoon-feeding askers with ready-made answers, but rather to help them with some basic information that will hopefully unlock the key to their own further research — helping them in fact to help themselves.
I felt sure in your case that once I had given you a couple of basic pointers, you would have no trouble pursuing your own research.
Note from asker:
| Thank you for pointing me in the right direction Tony! |
| Thanks very much for all your help Tony - I sincerely appreciate it. However, a little disappointed by 'too busy to do Asker's research for her..'. I sometimes just need pointing in the right direction and want to ensure I get the right terminology. I have pointed out on many occasions that I am relatively new to the patent field as I am being trained up and am actually a medical translator. I just want to learn and have always found you to be extremely helpful, so I felt your comment was a little unwarranted. Nevertheless, thanks for your help here and on other questions. |
Peer comment(s):
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B D Finch
: Was about to agree, but it's non-propulsive. You're certainly right re "power" for "energie".// I have a feeling there is a logical/grammatical reason why it's a propulsion motor, but propulsive power, but can't get my head around it at the moment.
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Well, as I said, i'm too busy to do Asker's research for her, and for me the real issue was the 'power' one; however, do note that in many similar contexts, 'propulsion' IS used, cf. 'propulsion motor', so I'm not convinced it would NEVER be used here.
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