Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
procéder par
English translation:
interested in
Added to glossary by
Nora Mahony
Aug 25, 2010 09:09
13 yrs ago
French term
Ireland
procéder par
French to English
Art/Literary
Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting
This is a largely imagined dialogue at a showing of Man Ray and Desnos' film 'L'Etoile de mer'. A member of the audience makes a suggestion for the real 'meaning' of the starfish, and Desnos retorts:
'Man Ray ne procède pas par déformation artistique, ni par une servile reproduction de la nature!'
So what I'm looking for is a conversational way to say that he doesn't 'work to a process of', the idea being that he's not filming by numbers, blindly following a popular school of thought or art theory to achieve his end goal. It can certainly be a bit high-fallutin', but not too awkward to be spoken aloud.
'Man Ray ne procède pas par déformation artistique, ni par une servile reproduction de la nature!'
So what I'm looking for is a conversational way to say that he doesn't 'work to a process of', the idea being that he's not filming by numbers, blindly following a popular school of thought or art theory to achieve his end goal. It can certainly be a bit high-fallutin', but not too awkward to be spoken aloud.
Proposed translations
(English)
Proposed translations
+4
10 mins
French term (edited):
'Man Ray ne procède pas par
Selected
Man Ray is not interested in
I think this is a more natural way of expressing this idea in English, rather than talking specifically about the working process, especially in a verb.
Note from asker:
| Thanks – I think I'll have to pick between natural and a more direct translation, as per usual! Very helpful. |
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "This is perfect – it has the right degree of snobbery to it, too."
7 mins
Ahmed Alami
Morocco
Morocco
Morocco
Sworn Translator/Traducteur Assermenté
Native in: Arabic 
Works in: English to Arabic, Arabic to English, French to Arabic
to adopt as a method
a suggestion
Note from asker:
| Thank you! |
26 mins
follow
not sure you need more than his
Note from asker:
| Thank you, as I do have to think about brevity, too. |
1 hr
use
Man Ray doesn't use ...
I think that is how the same idea would be expressed in English. Keep it simple.
I think that is how the same idea would be expressed in English. Keep it simple.
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Evans (X)
: this might work for the first bit but doesn't make it easy to find an elegant solution for the rest of the sentence.
1 hr
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1 hr
polyglot45
Native in French
&
English
Native in: English , French
Works in: English to French, French to English, German to French, and 4 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
11
is (not) about
has nothing to do with
3 hrs
Man Ray's work isn't dictated by
Suggestion.
7 hrs
does not operate out of
Hello,
This is how I might say translate it.
The artist operates out of an independent connection to his feelings. Uncensored accessibility enables energetic powers to float to the surface, ...
englard.org/eng/intuitive_painting.htm
I hope this helps.
This is how I might say translate it.
The artist operates out of an independent connection to his feelings. Uncensored accessibility enables energetic powers to float to the surface, ...
englard.org/eng/intuitive_painting.htm
I hope this helps.
1 hr
Sandra Mouton
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in French
Works in field
United Kingdom
Efficiency and finesse
Native in: French 
Works in: English to French, Russian to French, Latin to French, and 3 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
8
Man Ray's method isn't
Another possibility to convey the idea of working process present in the source "procéder par".
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Note added at 1 day2 hrs (2010-08-26 12:04:10 GMT)
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I am ready to accept that my suggestion isn't the best by far, but "procéder par" is quite didactic in the first place.
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Note added at 1 day2 hrs (2010-08-26 12:04:10 GMT)
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I am ready to accept that my suggestion isn't the best by far, but "procéder par" is quite didactic in the first place.
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
SMcG (X)
: too didactic
7 mins
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