Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
le retour d'accrotère
English translation:
upstand
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kashew
Jul 4, 2011 09:23
12 yrs ago
French term
United Kingdom
le retour d'accrotère
French to English
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Sports store details
Hello all.
This comes from a description of security/safety conditions in a sports store. I am taking accrotère to mean parapet, but not sure about retour. Would it be the height of the parapet measured from the roof perhaps?
Many thanks in advance for any help.
La toiture n'est pas sécurisée, le retour d'accrotère est inférieur à 50 cm.
This comes from a description of security/safety conditions in a sports store. I am taking accrotère to mean parapet, but not sure about retour. Would it be the height of the parapet measured from the roof perhaps?
Many thanks in advance for any help.
La toiture n'est pas sécurisée, le retour d'accrotère est inférieur à 50 cm.
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Jul 13, 2011 10:42: kashew Created KOG entry
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upstand
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in full; parapet upstand
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in full; parapet upstand
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backstand
I'm guessing and, TTBOMK, the word is invented.
Everything I can find on acrotère and retour is about the flashing of the coping, so not exactly safety-related.
All I can imagine is that legislation required a "backstand" on a a parapet wall so that people cannot easily lean over it. If your parapet wall is 30cm thick, say, a coping extending 20 cm inwards from the inside face of the parapet would give you a broad coping over which - depending on parapet height - it would not be easy to lean. Of course anyone wanting to look down at the foot of the building would then have to lie on top of the parapet, with their feet off the ground, which is hardly safe, but I suppose that is a deliberate act. The extra width would help reduce "genuinely accidental" "non-stupid" falls due to stumbling, etc.
Everything I can find on acrotère and retour is about the flashing of the coping, so not exactly safety-related.
All I can imagine is that legislation required a "backstand" on a a parapet wall so that people cannot easily lean over it. If your parapet wall is 30cm thick, say, a coping extending 20 cm inwards from the inside face of the parapet would give you a broad coping over which - depending on parapet height - it would not be easy to lean. Of course anyone wanting to look down at the foot of the building would then have to lie on top of the parapet, with their feet off the ground, which is hardly safe, but I suppose that is a deliberate act. The extra width would help reduce "genuinely accidental" "non-stupid" falls due to stumbling, etc.
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kashew
: Probably works with Anne's explanation from client. Or "set-back"!
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Discussion
Bourth's backstand is probably ok too.
By the way this does not link to "la toiture n'est pas sécurisée": anything outside the parapet is unsafe.
The "relevé" is a waterproofing measure that directs water away from the edges of the sealing membrane, but it may alos have a safety role: to prevent somebody from falling over a parapet, this one must be high enough (1m standard in France, specific anti-suicide rules apply for very high terraces) and wide enough, which may be obtained by the thickness of the parapet itself or by a supplemental width inwards or outwards.
I suppose the parapet wall COULD have a return wall to brace it. This would be particularly useful for masonry parapets, and particularly in a place like Christchurch, NZ, which has lost most if not all of its masonry parapets of late (admittedly in some part through lack of maintenance), but I would have thought a modern concrete parapet would have sufficient internal reinforcement to make a retour in this sense unnecessary.
Of course if they are two distinct items - La toiture n'est pas sécurisée. EN OUTRE le retour d'accrotère est inférieur à 50 cm then assuming retour is used improperly, it could well be the upstand as others have suggested, though this relates to waterproofing, not at all to safety.
http://www.qualiteconstruction.com/uploads/pics/croquis19.gi...
http://www.qualiteconstruction.com/enregistrements/fiches-pa...
"engravure" il also used, albeit a bit more technical:
http://www.qualiteconstruction.com/outils/fiches-pathologie/...