Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
oignons coque
English translation:
stuffed / whole onions
Added to glossary by
Kelly Harrison
May 24, 2012 11:11
12 yrs ago
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French term
oignons coque
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onions
Calling fellow foodies who really know their onions....
This appears on a menu as an accompaniment to fish: mousseline de Charlotte au beurre et oignons coque.
Are these small button/pearl onions, the outer layers of onions, onions prepared à la coque, onions cooked in their skins or something else completely?
Any help would be most appreciated. TIA
This appears on a menu as an accompaniment to fish: mousseline de Charlotte au beurre et oignons coque.
Are these small button/pearl onions, the outer layers of onions, onions prepared à la coque, onions cooked in their skins or something else completely?
Any help would be most appreciated. TIA
Proposed translations
(English)
4 +2 | stuffed onions | Kelly Harrison |
5 | onions (roasted) à la coque | Nesrine Echroudi |
4 | onions "à la coque" | Cyril B. |
Change log
Jun 7, 2012 09:09: Kelly Harrison Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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French term (edited):
onions coque
Selected
stuffed onions
I have already translated this for a local gastonomic restaurant, it was written "onion à la coque" which turned out to be the thick, outer (edible) layer of an onion stuffed with vegetables.
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Note added at 17 mins (2012-05-24 11:28:45 GMT)
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Just remembered it was actually written "coque d'onion", which I think that would most likely be stuffed with vegetables as mine was, rather than puree - especially since there is an "et"... Then again there could be all sorts of things in there, from sausage meat to tofu to creamy mushrooms - so I reckon your best bet is to a) keep it simple and ambiguous as a "stuffed onion", or b) ask your client what's inside. :o)
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Note added at 5 hrs (2012-05-24 16:24:41 GMT)
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My boyfriend is actually a chef, and he worked in the restaurant in question this winter. Here is our skype conversation on the subject:
[13:25:58] Kally Herrison: dit, les coques donion y a quoi dedans? tjs les legumes?
[13:26:31] Niko: Tu met ske tu veux
[13:26:48] Kally Herrison: si cest sur un menu et cest ecrit que onion coque, ca sera surprise alors?
[13:32:47] Niko: non pas forcemen
[13:33:35] Kally Herrison: ca cera vide?
[13:34:15] Niko: en fait on fait cuire les oignons entier dans l eau bouillante
[13:34:28] Niko: et apres on coupe un chapeau
[13:34:43] Niko: et apres on enleve le millieu
[13:35:05] Niko: comme sa on peu le farcire avec se k on veu
[13:35:37] Kally Herrison: donc si ct sur un menu, le clent va ensuite choisir une farce?
[13:36:04] Niko: ouai
[13:36:24] Niko: enfin plutot le chef
[13:37:06] Niko: sur le menu sa sera ecrit coque d oignon farci avec j sais pas koi
[13:38:35] Niko: tu comprend?
[13:40:15] Kally Herrison: mais c esrit que onion coque?
[13:41:32] Niko: ouai mais normallement sa serai coque farci de ...... [13:42:15] Niko: ctai theiry et ses idee a la con
So there you go, usually it's "coque d'onion farci de ...." The last comment refers to the fact that this was not the case for the menu of this restaurant, as is the case with yours - I suppose it's meant to sound posh ;o) and allows the chef to choose a filling according to whatever ingredients he has that week. In this case I imagine that there will be some kind of vegetable inside OTHER than the puree (which I am convinced remains outside of the onion) which would complete this kind of fish dish, such as peppers, courgettes and tomatoes...
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Note added at 5 hrs (2012-05-24 16:43:03 GMT)
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(excuse my extremely repetitive use of the word case in that last paragraph!)
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Note added at 5 hrs (2012-05-24 16:45:25 GMT)
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note: "stuffed onion" and not "onions" as there tends only to be one big one.
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Note added at 7 hrs (2012-05-24 18:16:45 GMT)
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Zap that last comment... In my experience they use a "big daddy" onion and it has the same name, indeed you did say onions which is why I did too :oD Good luck!
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Note added at 17 mins (2012-05-24 11:28:45 GMT)
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Just remembered it was actually written "coque d'onion", which I think that would most likely be stuffed with vegetables as mine was, rather than puree - especially since there is an "et"... Then again there could be all sorts of things in there, from sausage meat to tofu to creamy mushrooms - so I reckon your best bet is to a) keep it simple and ambiguous as a "stuffed onion", or b) ask your client what's inside. :o)
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Note added at 5 hrs (2012-05-24 16:24:41 GMT)
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My boyfriend is actually a chef, and he worked in the restaurant in question this winter. Here is our skype conversation on the subject:
[13:25:58] Kally Herrison: dit, les coques donion y a quoi dedans? tjs les legumes?
[13:26:31] Niko: Tu met ske tu veux
[13:26:48] Kally Herrison: si cest sur un menu et cest ecrit que onion coque, ca sera surprise alors?
[13:32:47] Niko: non pas forcemen
[13:33:35] Kally Herrison: ca cera vide?
[13:34:15] Niko: en fait on fait cuire les oignons entier dans l eau bouillante
[13:34:28] Niko: et apres on coupe un chapeau
[13:34:43] Niko: et apres on enleve le millieu
[13:35:05] Niko: comme sa on peu le farcire avec se k on veu
[13:35:37] Kally Herrison: donc si ct sur un menu, le clent va ensuite choisir une farce?
[13:36:04] Niko: ouai
[13:36:24] Niko: enfin plutot le chef
[13:37:06] Niko: sur le menu sa sera ecrit coque d oignon farci avec j sais pas koi
[13:38:35] Niko: tu comprend?
[13:40:15] Kally Herrison: mais c esrit que onion coque?
[13:41:32] Niko: ouai mais normallement sa serai coque farci de ...... [13:42:15] Niko: ctai theiry et ses idee a la con
So there you go, usually it's "coque d'onion farci de ...." The last comment refers to the fact that this was not the case for the menu of this restaurant, as is the case with yours - I suppose it's meant to sound posh ;o) and allows the chef to choose a filling according to whatever ingredients he has that week. In this case I imagine that there will be some kind of vegetable inside OTHER than the puree (which I am convinced remains outside of the onion) which would complete this kind of fish dish, such as peppers, courgettes and tomatoes...
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Note added at 5 hrs (2012-05-24 16:43:03 GMT)
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(excuse my extremely repetitive use of the word case in that last paragraph!)
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Note added at 5 hrs (2012-05-24 16:45:25 GMT)
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note: "stuffed onion" and not "onions" as there tends only to be one big one.
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Note added at 7 hrs (2012-05-24 18:16:45 GMT)
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Zap that last comment... In my experience they use a "big daddy" onion and it has the same name, indeed you did say onions which is why I did too :oD Good luck!
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Colin Morley (X)
: This was what I thought, too: http://www.princedebretagne-conso.com/fr/les-recettes/247-oi...
54 mins
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agree |
Tony M
: I feel it has to be something like this, though it is puzzling that what they are stuffed with is not mentioned; like you and Asker, I feel the mousseline is indeed an unlikely bet, for all the reasons cited; it just seems odd there's no other mention.
4 hrs
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neutral |
Nesrine Echroudi
: you're missing the main meaning of the term to be translated.
8 hrs
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onions "à la coque"
I'd keep the FR here... and let the maitre d' explain what it is exactly :)
'à la coque' should mean that the end product is roundishly shaped, with a hard external layer, and that you eat only the inside through a small opening.
It can be stuffed but it's not necessarily. Here, nothing indicates it is.
If you really want to translate it... 'onions roasted in their skin' or 'roasted onions' but something would definitely be lost in translation.
'à la coque' should mean that the end product is roundishly shaped, with a hard external layer, and that you eat only the inside through a small opening.
It can be stuffed but it's not necessarily. Here, nothing indicates it is.
If you really want to translate it... 'onions roasted in their skin' or 'roasted onions' but something would definitely be lost in translation.
1 hr
onions (roasted) à la coque
thay maybe stuffed but that's not necessary. They are mainly cooked in their shell.
Reference comments
4 hrs
Reference:
A recipe
This recipe for 'oignons à la coque' is in fact simply onions baked whole — I suppose this could be by analogy with 'œuf à la coque', which although it really means 'served in its shell', might be taken by extension to mean 'served whole'... a bit tenuous, though!
http://www.vivolta.com/entrees-salades/recette-oignons-rotis...
http://www.vivolta.com/entrees-salades/recette-oignons-rotis...
Discussion
D'après la recette Prince de Bretagne et celle de Tony, on fait bien le parallèle avec l'oeuf à la coque (Cyril) qu'on décapite avant d'y plonger la petite cuillère. Et il s'agit bien de l'oignon entier cuit au four dans sa pelure (Perledelune). Dans la recette de Tony, on le décalotte ou on le fend. Ce qui fait penser au jacket potato et on trouve bien sous google
Oven baked onion! ...... Baked Onions In Their Jackets ...
http://www.matines.com/recettes-matines/plats/oeuf-coque-aux...
Vinaigrette de Pommes ratte, oignons coques et foie gras. De belles petites PdT ultra moelleuses, des mini oignons fondants (cuits à basse temp. ?) et une rondelle de foie gras bien rosée à cœur. Un plat à la fois simple, subtil et fin, sans fioriture.