Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

(prise [etc.]) du commerce

English translation:

commercially-available OR off-the-shelf (plug, etc.)

Added to glossary by Tony M
Jan 18, 2006 10:41
18 yrs ago
French term

prise du commerce

French to English Tech/Engineering Engineering (general) Hydraulic loading arm
DECONNEXION ELECTRIQUE

En présence de détecteurs sur la partie basse du Style 80, il existe un système de déconnexion électrique réalisé à partir de prise du commerce.

The context is a marine (hydraulic) loading arm. The 'Style 80' is a type of swivel joint on the arm. The electrical disconnection feature is an integrated safety mechanism - all this is clear, but unless I am missing something really obvious, what on earth is the 'prise du commerce' referring to?
Proposed translations (English)
3 +2 commercially-available plug
3 +1 standard socket / plug
3 socket connection

Proposed translations

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commercially-available plug


...or '...plug-&-socket combination', if it is talking about the mating pair.

That's what I'd usually understand it to mean; you might also say 'standard' or 'off-the-shelf', but I think 'commercially-available' is clearest.

It means 'as distinct from a custom designed and built device'

I don't think this is an 'integrated safety device'; I believe it simply means that 'where detectors are fitted on the lower part, they can be disconnected if necessary using a mating pair of commercially-available connectors [or plug & socket]'
Clearly, if you start fitting extra bits onto this lower arm or whatever, you need to provide a way of disconnecting them in the event that the arm has to be dismantled for some reason...
Peer comment(s):

agree Andre de Vries
13 mins
Thanks, Andre!
agree David Goward : although I tend to use "off-the-shelf" myself
7 hrs
Thanks, David! I agree that in many circumstances that is more appropriate, but here, I just wondered how formal the register is?
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3 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Indeed - and I had wondered if it simply meant this - and then dismissed it as I had never actually come across the expression 'du commerce' used in this way. Thanks for clearing this up."
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socket connection

hope it helps

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Peer comment(s):

neutral Tony M : Naturally! But don't you think maybe that's skipping over the 'du commerce' bit?
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standard socket / plug

just an ordinary one available from a store
Peer comment(s):

neutral Tony M : Yes, indeed, as I said in my answer; however, because the word 'standard' can have lots of different, specific meanings, it might not be the ideal term to use here? / No prob, I know the feeling! Don't care about my answer, just the linguistic worry...
20 mins
sorry Dusty, I didn't see that in your answer (in a rush as usual)
agree Romanian Translator (X)
4 days
thanks!
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