Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
citation muette
English translation:
tacit reference
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tatyana000
Nov 3, 2014 10:25
9 yrs ago
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French term
citation muette
French to English
Social Sciences
Philosophy
From a texte about divine knowledge in medieval Muslim philosophy:
Un mot pour conclure : le texte du Tahâfut qu’on a lu s’achève sur une citation à Thémistius très importante pour comprendre le système d’Averroès, mais c’est une ***citation muette*** (sur laquelle on pourrait glisser – et sur laquelle, je pense, la plupart des commentateurs glisse).
Un mot pour conclure : le texte du Tahâfut qu’on a lu s’achève sur une citation à Thémistius très importante pour comprendre le système d’Averroès, mais c’est une ***citation muette*** (sur laquelle on pourrait glisser – et sur laquelle, je pense, la plupart des commentateurs glisse).
Proposed translations
(English)
3 +1 | tacit reference | Victoria Britten |
5 +2 | an allusion / a hint to | Francis Marche |
3 -1 | paraphrase | DLyons |
Proposed translations
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tacit reference
This brings to mind the kind of situation where the text is so well known (to the reader and writer) that there is no need to mention it explicitly.
Indeed, "implicit" would be another possibility.
Indeed, "implicit" would be another possibility.
Peer comment(s):
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Sheri P
: Had been tracking the question and had my email open when you posted :-)
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Thanks, Sheri - that was amazingly quick! // :-)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you!"
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paraphrase
"This idea passed into falsafa. His aim was practical; he wished to render Aristotle more easily accessible, in 'paraphrases' in which he gathered together the ideas of the master clearly and concisely. This is why the Muslims turned frequently to him; some indeed adopted his method of exposition by means of paraphrase."
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Note added at 1 hr (2014-11-03 12:15:30 GMT)
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http://www.muslimphilosophy.com/ei2/falsafa.htm
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"de Jean de la Rochelle, en citation muette ou en paraphrase, mais sans jamais signaler la source (pour d'autres exemples cfr. art. cit. infra n. 57)."
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Note added at 1 hr (2014-11-03 12:15:30 GMT)
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http://www.muslimphilosophy.com/ei2/falsafa.htm
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Note added at 1 hr (2014-11-03 12:16:51 GMT)
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"de Jean de la Rochelle, en citation muette ou en paraphrase, mais sans jamais signaler la source (pour d'autres exemples cfr. art. cit. infra n. 57)."
Peer comment(s):
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Victoria Britten
: It would be easier to see whether this instance is one of a whole system if you could give the origin of your quotation
14 mins
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Sheri P
: If this were EN "paraphrase," why wouldn't the author have used FR "paraphrase"? Also, the "ou" that appears in the quotation you provided suggests that "citation muette" and "paraphrase" are not the same thing.
36 mins
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neutral |
Chakib Roula
: Et si on utilisait le mot "allégorie"?
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Merci Roula. That might also apply in this context "Islamic allegory is the product of a cohesive literary tradition to which few contributed as significantly as Ibn Sina".
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Germaine
: La paraphrase, la métonymie, etc. ne sont que la manifestation de la citation muette (cf. votre discussion); cette traduction caractérise la citation effectuée, mais ne traduit pas "citation muette".// Exactly. Think of the text in ( ) + back-translation
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I think you need to take it in context.
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an allusion / a hint to
al·lu·sion
an expression designed to call something to mind without mentioning it explicitly; an indirect or passing reference.
"an allusion to Shakespeare"
synonyms: reference to, mention of, suggestion of, hint to, intimation of, comment on, remark on
"the town's name is an allusion to its founding family"
the practice of making allusions, especially as an artistic device.
an expression designed to call something to mind without mentioning it explicitly; an indirect or passing reference.
"an allusion to Shakespeare"
synonyms: reference to, mention of, suggestion of, hint to, intimation of, comment on, remark on
"the town's name is an allusion to its founding family"
the practice of making allusions, especially as an artistic device.
Peer comment(s):
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Germaine
: with allusion - qui me semble même mieux faire qu'une traduction littérale.
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agree |
GILLES MEUNIER
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Discussion
http://books.google.ca/books?id=PF7UkWdfi9cC&pg=PA35&lpg=PA3...
" On relève par ailleurs une citation de l’Historia ecclesiastica dont l’origine n’est pas indiquée avec précision, et ce qui semble bien être une citation muette du même texte (il n’est pas exclu que le Pugio idei en comporte d’autres). Les caractéristiques de ces citations (références parfois très précises ; paraphrases sélectives de développements assez étendus dans l’original ; variété des passages invoqués ) rendent très vraisemblable la consultation directe d’une copie complète de cette œuvre."