Aug 28, 2023 11:01
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German term

Ansichtshöhe

German to English Tech/Engineering Architecture
Die Glasscheibe auf der Außenseite überdeckt die vertikalen Profile fast vollständig. Die Ansichtshöhe der horizontalen Profile wurde auf 15 mm reduziert.

Referring to a sliding window (Schiebefenster). I have found so many different translations of "Ansichtshöhe" - "face height", "view height", "sightline height", etc. Anyone know which one is best suited to a window?

TIA.

Discussion

Schtroumpf Aug 31, 2023:
No way! "Das ist klarer als der vieldeutige und irreführende Begriff "Ansichftshöhe"??" (cit. J. Gleim)
Ansichtshöhe ist weder vieldeutig noch irreführend, sondern der bei Fachleuten übliche Terminus technicus:
S. https://www.baier-metallbau.de/images/pdf/schiebefenster/inf... auf S. 9,
• Ansichtshöhe Rahmenprofil oben
außen und innen: 78 mm
Sprossenprofil größenabhängig
• Ansichtshöhe Flügelprofil oben: 40 mm
Ansichtsbreite Flügelprofil seitlich: 25 mm
Cilian O'Tuama Aug 31, 2023:
hgih would be a typo high instead of height is simply wrong. Linguistically speaking.
Kim Metzger Aug 29, 2023:
Raymond Peat Aug 29, 2023:
face height I've translated Ansichtsbreite as "face width" for years. It has been the width of the frame visible to the viewer from the outside or the inside - the bit that is not concealed by the reveal exterior mortar or interior linings. I've never come across Ansichtshöhe before, but logically it should be "face height" and would refer to the top and bottom parts of the window frame.

Proposed translations

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sliding window sightline / sliding window sight line

The sliding window glass pane on the outside almost completely covers the vertical profiles. The sliding window sightline / sight line for the horizontal profiles has been reduced to 15 mm.

What is a window sightline? - Sheerwater Glass
https://www.sheerwaterglass.co.uk › ...
sliding window sightline de www.sheerwaterglass.co.uk
15 dic. 2020 — The sightline is the term used to describe the amount of window frame that you see when looking directly at the window.

What is a window sightline? - Window Wise
https://www.windowwise.co.uk › ...
15 ago. 2022 — A line extending from an observer's eye to a viewed object or area. With window installation, the sightline is essentially the amount of window ...

How to get the Slimmest Sightlines for Windows - IQ Glass
https://www.iqglassuk.com › news
15 ene. 2015 — IQ's slim framed sliding door system has long been used by the architectural community to create slim sightlines to large patio doors. But these ...

Aluminium Contemporary Window Sightlines - Slide & Fold
https://www.slideandfold.co.uk › ...
Slide & Fold. Bi-Fold Doors ... Aluminium Contemporary Window Sightlines. Please click the links below to view the sightline drawings: 33mm Outerframe:.

Slim frame windows - uniform sightline - VELFAC
https://velfac.co.uk › unique-design
They particularly like the system's slim frame and uniform sightlines which ... VELFAC single sliding patio doors, also known as single leaf sliding doors, ...

Technical Specification
https://www.rossendale.gov.uk › 2010-0202_te...
The horizontal and vertical slider outer frame is 50mm front to back and with a low 35mm sight line all round. Vertical sliders up to 1000mm wide will be ...
13 pages

line of sight | Übersetzung Deutsch-Englisch - Dict.cc
https://www.dict.cc › englisch-deutsch › line+of+sight
Blickachse {f} archi. Fluchtlinie {f} [Ausrichtung] tech. Werbung. line of sight · Sichtlinie {f} electr. optics. Sichtverbindung {f} tech.

sight line | Übersetzung Deutsch-Englisch - Dict.cc
https://m.dict.cc › englisch-deutsch › sight+line
Blickachse {f} archi. Visierlinie {f} [an der Waffe] ; Blickrichtung {f} · Blickachse {f} ; Sichtlinie {f} electr. optics. Sichtverbindung {f} ...

sightlines | Wörterbuch Englisch-Deutsch - Dict.cc
https://www.dict.cc › s=sightlines
Built as a water tower, local lore claims that it was constructed to obscure the sightlines of a rival abutting neighbor. The renovations included a new HD ...

sightline | Übersetzung Deutsch-Englisch - Dict.cc
https://www.dict.cc › englisch-deutsch › sightline
A recreation area around the waterfall with an observation platform allows visitors a close sightline to the waterfall. Department of Energy terminal storage ...

sight line | Übersetzung Deutsch-Englisch - Dict.cc
https://m.dict.cc › englisch-deutsch › sight+line
92×57mm Mauser chambered FG 42 battle rifle/automatic rifle was one of the first inline firearms incorporating a "straight-line" recoil configuration and an ...

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Aluminium Windows & Doors Jargon Buster | Marlin Windows Yorkshire
https://www.marlinwindows.co.uk › jargon-buster
A Sightline is the amount of window frame you see when you are looking directly at it. Narrow sightlines mean slimmer frames and conversely wide sightlines means thicker frames.

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Don't mention it. You're welcome. Glad to have been of help!
Peer comment(s):

agree Kim Metzger : Just sightline. https://www.awsaustralia.com.au/specifyaws/comfort-edge-slid...
2 hrs
Many thanks, much appreciated indeed, also for your valued peer comment.
agree Cilian O'Tuama : Tricky Q, but JG's attempt is clearly wrong (and again not even EN) on several counts. Maybe a more insightful suggestion will come along?//I change to "agree" because JG's had me banned from commenting on his posts, so I can't disagree with his attempts
16 hrs
Many thanks, much appreciated indeed, also for your valued peer comment.
agree Chris Foster : Sightline (and Sheerwater Glass did some work on my windows!)
2 days 19 hrs
Many thanks, much appreciated indeed, also for your valued peer comment.
agree Schtroumpf
3 days 4 hrs
Many thanks, much appreciated indeed!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks to everyone for their valuable input - much appreciated!"
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visible high or sight-restricting

Ich würde den Satz wie folgt vereinfachen und dann übersetzen: "Die sichtbare Höhe der horizontalen Profile wurde auf 15 mm reduziert" oder "Die sichteinschränkende/sichtbegrenzde Höhe ..." je nachdem, was der Kunde betonen möchte. Das ist klarer als der vieldeutige und irreführende Begriff "Ansichftshöhe".

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visible high or sight-restricting

Some terms and references for windows and parts

Grids or muntins
These are the pieces of framing that separate a larger window into smaller panes. In older windows, large panes of glass were quite expensive, so muntins let smaller panes fill a larger space.
:
Modern windows are usually glazed with one large sheet of glass per sash, while windows in the past were glazed with multiple panes separated by glazing bars, or muntins, due to the unavailability of large sheets of glass.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window#Terms

A muntin (US), muntin bar, glazing bar (UK), or sash bar is a strip of wood or metal separating and holding panes of glass in a window.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muntin

A mullion is a vertical element that forms a division between units of a window or screen, or is used decoratively.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mullion

Fig. 1 is a front elevation view of an insulating glazing unit with a muntin grid disposed between the inner and outer sheets of glass.
https://data.epo.org/publication-server/pdf-document/EP05817...

The positioning, the alignment whether horizontal, vertical or a mixture of both as well as the number of muntins are freely selectable. As a rule, a 30 mm wide rung is used. For the AR20 aluminum frame system, we use a 25 mm wide muntin profile.
https://www.kuhn-schiebetueren.de/en/schieben-tuersysteme-al...

Restricted view (bar and glass window) but still managed to see everything in good detail.
https://aviewfrommyseat.de/photo/222317/M-and-S Bank Arena/s...

Some sights might have a restricted view due to TV-cameras; though does not give right to any claims for replacement.
europe-top-12.tischtennis.de
Vereinzelt kann es zu Sichtbehinderungen durch TV-Kameras kommen, Ersatzansprüche kommen dadurch jedoch nicht zur Geltung.
europe-top-12.tischtennis.de
https://www.linguee.com/english-german/search?source=auto&qu...

The view is restricted by the parapet .
Der Blick ist durch das Parapet eingeschränkt.
https://en.pons.com/translate/english-german/restricted view

The visible width of a burckhardt’s glide sliding window is only 38mm in the joint area. Extremely slim 26mm joint areas are also possible.
https://www.burckhardts.de/system/function-and-design/?lang=...

CONCEPT-DOOR-GFR
Frame construction, aluminium, surface polished to resemble stainless steel, anodised, frame profile (visible width 36 mm) for window opening.
https://m.luxelements.com/en/programm/concept/glaswand.htm

The 2-fold insulating glazing infill is circumferentially framed. The visible width of the vertical slat profiles is 200 mm on the inside, the horizontal slat
joint is 49 mm on the inside.
https://www.roda.de/fileadmin/user_upload/produkte/rauch-und...

Note: The terms "width" and "height" can be used alternately depending on the orientation of the glazing bars.

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Typing error correction: Please read 'visible height' rather than 'visible high'
Peer comment(s):

disagree Lancashireman : Höhe (DE) - noun. High (EN) - normally an adjective, but may be used as a noun in a totally different context (e.g. on a high = experiencing success)
1 hr
Please allow typos in answers posted with cell phones.
disagree Schtroumpf : How come you change the term (once more.... see your other answers this week) before translating? If the term bothers the asker, it will not be very useful to translate something else. Please, stick to the questions!
1 day 16 hrs
See my discussion entry 'Of course'
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3 days 2 hrs

visible height/width or sight-restricting

Unfortunately, some peers do not accept incorrect expressions caused by accidentally pressing the wrong key while the cellphone autocompletes the expression, and negate all answers and references by disagreeing due to a typo. Since the answer line is not correctable, I have to reconstruct and rpost all references.

I suggest to simplify the sentence as follows and translate it as follows: "Die sichtbare Höhe/Breite der horizontalen Profile wurde auf 15 mm reduziert" or "Die sichteinschränkende/sichtbegrenzende Höhe ..." depending on what the customer wants to emphasize. This is clearer than the ambiguous and misleading term "Ansichtshöhe".

References for muntins (glazing bars), visible height/width and sight-restricting:

Modern windows are usually glazed with one large sheet of glass per sash, while windows in the past were glazed with multiple panes separated by glazing bars, or muntins, due to the unavailability of large sheets of glass.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window#Terms

A muntin (US), muntin bar, glazing bar (UK), or sash bar is a strip of wood or metal separating and holding panes of glass in a window.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muntin

Fig. 1 is a front elevation view of an insulating glazing unit with a muntin grid disposed between the inner and outer sheets of glass.
https://data.epo.org/publication-server/pdf-document/EP05817...

The positioning, the alignment whether horizontal, vertical or a mixture of both as well as the number of muntins are freely selectable. As a rule, a 30 mm wide rung is used. For the AR20 aluminum frame system, we use a 25 mm wide muntin profile.
https://www.kuhn-schiebetueren.de/en/schieben-tuersysteme-al...

The visible width of a burckhardt’s glide sliding window is only 38mm in the joint area. Extremely slim 26mm joint areas are also possible.
https://www.burckhardts.de/system/function-and-design/?lang=...

CONCEPT-DOOR-GFR
Frame construction, aluminium, surface polished to resemble stainless steel, anodised, frame profile (visible width 36 mm) for window opening.
https://m.luxelements.com/en/programm/concept/glaswand.htm

The 2-fold insulating glazing infill is circumferentially framed. The visible width of the vertical slat profiles is 200 mm on the inside, the horizontal slat
joint is 49 mm on the inside.
https://www.roda.de/fileadmin/user_upload/produkte/rauch-und...

Note: The terms "width" and "height" can be used alternately depending on the orientation of the glazing bars.

Restricted view (bar and glass window) but still managed to see everything in good detail.
https://aviewfrommyseat.de/photo/222317/M-and-S Bank Arena/s...

Some sights might have a restricted view due to TV-cameras; though does not give right to any claims for replacement.
europe-top-12.tischtennis.de
Vereinzelt kann es zu Sichtbehinderungen durch TV-Kameras kommen, Ersatzansprüche kommen dadurch jedoch nicht zur Geltung.
europe-top-12.tischtennis.de
https://www.linguee.com/english-german/search?source=auto&qu...

The view is restricted by the parapet.
Der Blick ist durch das Parapet eingeschränkt.
https://en.pons.com/translate/english-german/restricted view
Peer comment(s):

disagree Schtroumpf : How come you change the term (once more.... see your other answers this week) before translating? If the term bothers the asker, it will not be very useful to translate something else. Please, stick to the questions!
4 hrs
Again, See my discussion entry 'Of course'
disagree Lancashireman : 'visible sight-restricting' makes no more sense than 'visible high'
9 hrs
This in not the point! The issue is that the view is obstructed by window bars and the incidence of light is reduced in the room. Therefore, its width and height have been reduced. This must be taken into account.
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