Glossary entry (derived from question below)
русский term or phrase:
ужасная радость
английский translation:
joyous anticipation
русский term
США
Psychology, economics, politics
Native in: английский 
Works in: русский => английский, немецкий => английский, английский
ужасная радость
Frightful joy, dreadful joy, etc. - just don't make it in English. Does this sound odd because it's a 12-year-old boy writing, or is there/was there a somewhat less "frightful" meaning of "ужас"?
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Proposed translations
США
On time, on target, on budget.
Native in: английский 
, польский
Works in: польский => английский, английский => польский, русский => польский, and 1 more.
joyous anticipation
We also talk about Sears’ Santa Claus in the big window on Main Street, facing South Main’s campus. We reminisce about how Santa waved and said, “Ho, ho, ho.” Some of us went downtown and get our pictures taken with Foley’s Santa Claus. We purchased our Nativity scenes in Woolworth’s basement. We love to remember our childhoods, when we were full of JOYOUS ANTICIPATION and hope
I feel like a kid on Christmas Eve, unsettled with the excitement of what Santa will bring. Do you remember that feeling of joyous anticipation as you await a big event?
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Vladyslav Golovaty
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Thanks, Vladys, for getting into the mood of the season. Happy Holidays.
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interprivate
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Thanks, interprivate. Here, it is more important to describe the feeling than the words. It is that feeling of excitement that I tried to convey. Happy Holidays.
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LilianNekipelov
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Joyful holidays to you, Lilian. I hope you are full of that feeling of hope and slight nervousness as you await the arrival of Santa. Remember Tchaikovsky's "Nutcracker"? Happy Holidays and a Happy New Year to you and yours.
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cyhul
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Thanks, cyhul. Enjoy the holidays and have a happy new year.
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Natalia Volkova
: Maybe I`m too late to say it, but better late than never: Susan is right, it is really the best translation in this context.
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Thank you, Natalia. It is very kind of you, and it is never too late to appreciate each others' work here. May you have joyous holidays and a happy new year.
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Judith Hehir
2 дн 3 час
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Thank you, Judith. May the New Year find you looking forward to new exciting possibilities.
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Германия
Sworn Translator; BDÜ; Medicine & Law
Native in: испанский (Variant: Standard-Spain)
Works in: немецкий => испанский, английский => испанский, французский => испанский, and 2 more.
awful / morbid joy
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Alexander Kayumov
: I don't think "morbid joy" works...
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Sarah McDowell
: I agree with Alexander. There's no such thing as "morbid joy".
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Jim Tucker (X)
: There *is* such a thing as morbid joy. But this ain't it.
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Michael Korovkin
: Bravo Jim! Oh yes, there is such a thing as morbid joy. And how! But that's besides the point here, for here it's not morbid :)
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Legal and literary translator. Linguist.
Native in: английский (Variants: British, US) , польский (Variant: Standard-Poland)
Works in: русский => английский, польский => английский, шведский => английский
Big joy
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Big joy might be better. Awful might imply something different. even in its archaic use.
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It has nothing to do with anyhting horrible -- it just means big, surprising in the 19th c Russian. Awfully joyful, would be another option.
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Overwhelmed with joy -- this would be my final choice -- I think.
США
Legal and literary translator. Linguist.
Native in: английский (Variants: British, US) , польский (Variant: Standard-Poland)
Works in: русский => английский, польский => английский, шведский => английский
to be overwhelmed with joy
Россия
ph: +7 (950) 1980-769
Native in: русский
Works in: английский => русский, русский => английский, английский
terrible joy / terribly glad
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E.g. in Russian one can say "Я ужасно извиняюсь." = "I am terribly sorry."
Also [b][i]awfully[/i][/b] works here, I think. Means the same thing, if you think about it. But perhaps in English it sound too modern and teenager-like. But then maybe that's what you are going for...
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Susan, I am afraid I disagree with you here - regarding usage... In 19th century Russia, children from aristocratic families were taught to write in a manner much resemblilng that of adults, of the then-current literary language. A 12-year-old Russian prince would try his utmost to write like modern and classical writers of his day, not like a child, - and we should not make any comparison to a 12-year-old child in today's America or Russia. That kind of sentimentalist language is exactly how many educated people wrote in those days (don't know whether that's how they actually thought, but at least that's how they chose to express themselves).
| I thank you and the other contributors for reminding me that if you turn the phrase from adjective-noun into adverb-adjective, it works fine in English. A good reminder for translators not to be too literal! However, I think in this context, it doesn't work. A child would not wake up feeling "terribly glad" or "awfully glad" that it's Christmas. That's the kind of thing old ladies say at parties, "I'm awfully glad to meet you." |
| Thank you, Alexander, that's an interesting point, which I hadn't thought of. |
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Rachel Douglas
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Thanks!
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Alexander Grabowski
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Thanks!
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Jack Doughty
: prefer "glad" to "joy", but "terribly" and "awfully" are both commonly used in this way.
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Thanks! Perhaps "joy" would work in the 19th century context?
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Yuri Larin
: "Today I woke up feeling so excited [for the day ahead...]"
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Thanks!
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Sarah McDowell
: I like this and was going to say the same thing myself.
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Thanks!
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Sasha A. Pal (X)
: would go with "awfully glad/happy"
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Thanks!
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Tatiana Lammers
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Thanks!
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MariyaN (X)
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Thanks!
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svetlana cosquéric
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Thanks!
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LilianNekipelov
: I don't think so. It sounds very strange. (the first option) I woke up terribly glad might be Ok, for a moderm teenager. Terrible joy -- means something else.
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Well, one can talk of "terrible excitement", can one not?.. :)
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Natalia Volkova
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Thanks!
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