Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Russian term or phrase:
"поступающим в аспирантуру, аспирантам, соискателям и докторантам"
English translation:
people entering graduate school, current graduate students, degree candidates, and doctoral students
Added to glossary by
Dorene Cornwell
Apr 25, 2007 03:34
17 yrs ago
4 viewers *
Russian term
"поступающим в аспирантуру, аспирантам, соискателям и докторантам"
Russian to English
Law/Patents
Human Resources
Labor Code/educational stipends
This phrase is part of an editor's note to a provision in the RF Labor Code as follows: "По вопросу, касающемуся предоставления дополнительных гарантий и компенсаций лицам, поступающим в аспирантуру, аспирантам, соискателям и докторантам, см. Федеральный закон от 22.08.1996 N 125-ФЗ." I would say, "entering graduate students, graduate students, ??? and doctoral candidates". Suggestions, comments please.
Proposed translations
(English)
Proposed translations
14 hrs
Dorene Cornwell
Native in English
Works in field
Thorough, sensitive, and idiomatic
Native in: English
Works in: Russian to English, Spanish to English, English, and 2 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
12
Selected
people entering graduate school, current graduate students, degree candidates, and doctoral students
people entering graduate school, current graduate students, degree candidates, and doctoral students
Here is my thinking on the degree candidates and doctoral students part of the text:
At least in the US sometimes people are enrolled only minimally, like oen credit, while writing a dissertation or doing dissertation defense. This would be true of people either finishing Masters degrees or dctoral ones. However, since the Russian system separates doctoral students more explicitly than the US system, I see the logic of the Russian phrasing.
Anyway, this variant would sound clear but appropriately bureaucratic to US readers.
Here is my thinking on the degree candidates and doctoral students part of the text:
At least in the US sometimes people are enrolled only minimally, like oen credit, while writing a dissertation or doing dissertation defense. This would be true of people either finishing Masters degrees or dctoral ones. However, since the Russian system separates doctoral students more explicitly than the US system, I see the logic of the Russian phrasing.
Anyway, this variant would sound clear but appropriately bureaucratic to US readers.
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks for all the helpful comments."
3 hrs
(entering) graduate students, postgraduates, applicants and PHD students
Hope this is helpful
3 hrs
postgraduate applicants, postgraduate students, applying doctoral candidates and ...
candidates admitted to the doctoral degree (studies/programs)
докторант can also be rendered as
1. senior doctorate candidate or
2. candidate for senior post-doctoral qualification (I like this German term, which is close to "д.н.". The title is awardered upon completion of a second dissertation. )
Germans also use "postdocs" or " postdoctoral fellowship/studies " to better differentiate between "first-degree doctoral thesis" and "second-degree doctoral thesis".
I prefer not to use "PhD candidates" or similar abbreviations in this context.
докторант can also be rendered as
1. senior doctorate candidate or
2. candidate for senior post-doctoral qualification (I like this German term, which is close to "д.н.". The title is awardered upon completion of a second dissertation. )
Germans also use "postdocs" or " postdoctoral fellowship/studies " to better differentiate between "first-degree doctoral thesis" and "second-degree doctoral thesis".
I prefer not to use "PhD candidates" or similar abbreviations in this context.
14 hrs
Vadim Khazin
Native in Russian
Works in field
over 40 years of experience
Native in: Russian 
, Ukrainian
Works in: English to Ukrainian, Belarusian to English, English to Russian, and 10 more.
applying and actual postgraduate students, postgraduate degrees candidates
Я попытался объединить первые две и последние две категории. Должен заметить, что соискатель – это лицо, стремящееся получить учёную степень (то ли кандидата, то ли доктора наук – предполагаю, что речь идёт о России), работая над диссертацией, но не обязательно состоя в аспирантуре или докторантуре.
Discussion