Mar 29, 2019 18:08
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Russian term

до сдачи их в государственный архив

Russian to English Law/Patents Law: Contract(s)
Директор:

- обеспечивает сохранность и возможность использования документов Общества до сдачи их в государственный архив;

before they are placed to the state archives?
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Mar 29, 2019 18:08: changed "Kudoz queue" from "In queue" to "Public"

Proposed translations

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prior to submitting them to the state archive

not knowing the context this is my best guess
Peer comment(s):

neutral Boris Shapiro : Это есть передавать должен он же. Если нет - перевод окажется ошибочным.
6 mins
agree IrinaN
2 days 20 hrs
agree cyhul
3 days 5 hrs
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as long as they are placed/transferred to the state archives?

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Peer comment(s):

disagree lxunder : если добавить к варианту отриц. частицу not (placed) он станет корректным
2 mins
you are right. thanks
neutral Boris Shapiro : Дело даже не отсутствии частицы not. As long as имеет другой оттенок смысла, отличный от before или даже until.
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вот именно
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until they are submitted to the public archive

как вариант
Peer comment(s):

agree Boris Shapiro : Гораздо лучше, чем before
54 mins
neutral IrinaN : "until" implies that after submitting it there will be no access afterwards, which may or may not be the case. More context required.
2 days 22 hrs
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before they are transferred to the government archive


Selected Australian Government information and records are transferred to the ... or ask you to revise the transfer documents before we approve the transfer. http://www.naa.gov.au/information-management/managing-inform...


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Note added at 21 mins (2019-03-29 18:29:40 GMT)
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Writing The National Archives' reference (the TNA reference) on the front cover . ...... work has been carried out by government departments before a transfer is ... http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documents/information-man...
https://www.archives.gov/records- ... when they are transferred to the ... https://www.archives.gov/foia/foia-guide
When all these steps have been completed the archival holdings of a depository may be ... on the basis of levels of government (as central and local) ; or ..... with by would -- be "methodizers" before being transferred to the archives depository. https://www.archives.gov/research/alic/reference/archives-re...
Public archives also may be found at every other level of government, including ... Materials transferred to an archival institution in a single accessioning action.
https://www.archives.gov/research/alic/reference/archives-re...
Peer comment(s):

agree Erzsébet Czopyk
4 mins
Thank you very much, Erzsébet!
disagree Boris Shapiro : Ни одна из ссылок не содержит выражения 'government archive', чего и следовало ожидать, потому что это нелепая калька вместо адекватного public archive. Очередное фейковое "доказательство".
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Records are preserved in the government archives... https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/governments/services-for-...
neutral lxunder : похоже в ссылке речь идёт об архивах для хранения документов собственно органов власти "Records ... documenting the activities, decisions and responsibilities of government"
3 hrs
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until they are submitted to the national archive

как вариант
Peer comment(s):

agree Ravindra Godbole
8 hrs
neutral Boris Shapiro : А если речь идёт о передаче не в ГА РФ, а в архив субъекта федерации или муниципальный?
9 hrs
public
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Reference comments

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Reference:

союзы before, until, prior и as long as

before: earlier than the time when (единичное действие, с сильным оттенком "непосредственно до, незадолго до")

until: up to the time that (продолжительное действие)

prior: earlier in time or order : preceding temporally, causally, or psychologically (сильный оттенок каузативности)

as long as: during the time that, с сильным оттенком логического условия: provided that, inasmuch as

Если нахождение документов у директора - временная мера и длительное действие (то есть, ему не подержать на секунду дали перед сдачей, и не на постоянное хранение вручили), то подходит только один союз - until
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