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Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

aux imprécisions de mesure près

English translation:

within measurement uncertainties

Added to glossary by FannyMc
Apr 25, 2016 10:54
8 yrs ago
French term

aux imprécisions de mesure près

French to English Tech/Engineering Mathematics & Statistics
"...la somme des valeurs soit égale à 0 aux imprécisions de mesure près"
Proposed translations (English)
3 +3 within measurement uncertainties
4 barring measurement uncertainty
4 equals zero (within the measurement error)
3 barring any inaccuracies in the measurements

Proposed translations

+3
2 hrs
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within measurement uncertainties

"Uncertainty" et "accuracy" sont effectivement des notions différentes. Sans plus de contexte j’opterais pour "uncertainty" qui est plus global.

Je propose "within ..." car c'est une formulation assez courante dans le cadre des incertitudes de mesures.
Reference:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty

Peer comment(s):
agree Tony M : Yes, definitely for 'within'; though I do think it is probably 'précision' rather than 'incertitude'; possibly 'tolerances'? As you say, quite differet concepts!
58 mins
agree Didier Fourcot : My understanding is French should be "incertitudes"
2 hrs
Yes, literally "uncertainties" would be "incertitudes". Here I am assuming that the original text in French is not quite correct in terms of technical language... I guess Fanny can decide based on the rest of the text?
agree Daryo : https://www.wmo.int/pages/prog/gcos/documents/gruanmanuals/U... // French should be "incertitudes"
3 hrs
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1 hr

barring any inaccuracies in the measurements

I.e. Give or take any inaccuracies
Peer comment(s):
agree Chakib Roula
1 min
disagree Daryo : no measurement is perfect - there is ALWAYS some uncertainty so "barring" can't make any sense here
5 hrs
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2 hrs

barring measurement uncertainty

my take

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Note added at 2 hrs (2016-04-25 13:18:59 GMT)
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You can also say: 'Approximately equal to zero'

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Note added at 3 hrs (2016-04-25 14:27:17 GMT)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measurement_uncertainty
Peer comment(s):
agree Carolien Zam (X) : "All measurements are subject to uncertainty and a measurement result is complete only when it is accompanied by a statement of the associated uncertainty." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measurement_uncertainty
59 mins
Thank you very much!
neutral Tony M : I don't think you can really using 'barring' here.
1 hr
Wait a minute! What do you do when you exclude or limit decimals in a calculation? Don't you exclude or misrepresent measurement uncertainty?
disagree Daryo : no measurement is perfect - there is ALWAYS some uncertainty so "barring" can't make any sense here
4 hrs
Wait a minute! What do you do when you exclude or limit decimals in a calculation? Don't you exclude or misrepresent measurement uncertainty?
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103 days
French term (edited): égale à 0 aux imprécisions de mesure près

equals zero (within the measurement error)

I suspect that the author had Dubois and Prade's distinction between incertitudes and imprécisions in mind

https://books.google.fr/books?id=svleAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA34
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